New R32 vs. A3 S-line

[jdbubb at verizon.net (Dan Bubb)]

Why would anybody want a conventional manual as opposed to the DSG?
It'll shift automatically if you want to ignore it, shift manually if you want to do that and although the twin clutches are wet and hydraulically actuated, other than that it doesn't have the power losses of a traditional automatic since it has no torque converter nor the typical planetary gear set with their associated bands or clutches.
It shifts gears in 8ms vs. the 500ms that a typical human can manage.
What's wrong with that?
Dan 

From: "Adam Carroll" <vr612valve@yahoo.com>
To: <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: New R32 vs. A3 S-line


>   The Audi is nearly a half a second faster than the R32, so they say, and it is a mere grand more expensive (based) so these guys say. There is also rumor that the DSG is the only available transmission for the R32. WEAK! No manual in a $33k Golf?!?!?!? Even though the MkV (2.0T) is the best GTI since the MkII, (Automobile Mag: Car of the Year) they had better release the manual to make the volks happy. Here are some stats:   
>   
>    -Audi- 
>   
>     The highly acclaimed 2006 Audi A3 line-up will receive a formidable addition in mid-November: the A3 3.2 quattro? S-line. Audi's premium compact will now have even more sporting pretensions with a high-power V6 engine, quattro all-wheel drive, and aggressive exterior styling. The 2006 A3 3.2 quattro S-line will be available at a base price of $33,980 ($44,990 in Canada). A destination charge of $720 is not included in the base price. 
>  
>   
>     The heart of the new A3 3.2 quattro S-line is the narrow-angle 3.2L V6 engine producing 250 hp at 6300 rpm and 236 ft.-lbs. of torque from 2800-3200 rpm. A 6-speed Direct-Shift Gearbox transmission is standard, as is Audi's legendary quattro all-wheel drive. This drivetrain propels the A3 3.2 quattro S-line from 0-60 mph in 5.9 seconds, and through the quarter-mile in 14.4 seconds. 
>   
>      -VW R-
> 
>     
>     Volkswagen of America, Inc. today announced the return of its motorsports-inspired R32 at the Chicago Auto Show. First introduced in 2004 to an enthusiastic reception, the R32 delivers the ultimate in Volkswagen sports performance with dynamic handling and refined road manners. 
>  
>  
>   
>      The R32's power comes from a 3.2 L naturally aspirated 15-degree narrow angle V6 engine. With 250 horsepower and 236 ft. lbs. of torque, the R32 is all muscle. The standard 4MOTION all-wheel-drive system transfers at least 75 percent of available torque to the rear wheels. Volkswagen's acclaimed DSG? transmission allows for seamless gear changes and accelerates from 0-60 in approximately 6.4 seconds. 
>   
>     The quote about the 75% of the torque to the rear wheels is not accurate at all...
> 
> Nate Mellom <doubt@inwave.com> wrote:
>  It was unveiled in the US for the first time at the Chicago Auto Show.
> Of course, I was a week off, and missed it.
> But it was there.
> 
> 
> Chris Bennett wrote:
>> http://www.5000r32.com/?ic_id=promo_5000r32
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>> How did the faithful miss this? Or did we? Was I sleeping?
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> Nate Mellom <doubt@inwave.com> wrote:  It was unveiled in the US for the first time at the Chicago Auto Show.
> Of course, I was a week off, and missed it.
> But it was there.
> 
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> Chris Bennett wrote:
>> http://www.5000r32.com/?ic_id=promo_5000r32
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>> How did the faithful miss this? Or did we? Was I sleeping?
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