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Ice Opinions

I can vouch for Panasonic and controls are real important.
My main preference is a rotary volume knob... Sounds kinda basic, but it 
makes a big difference when you adjust the volume.

I put a $100 Panasonic in my Jeep, so it wouldn't be a big deal if someone 
stole it, and my only complaint is that it's easy to accidentally switch it 
into the bass adjustment, when I try to adjust the volume going down the 
road. I have 5 1/4" Infinity component dash speakers, and a 10" Infinity 
subwoofer w/amp in the Jeep and it kicks.

Clarion has always been more money, but their excuse is that's all they 
make, and it's good.

I like the Alpine SPS speakers, they have rubber surrounds and non-paper 
cones, so they'll last in a car, and the 4x6's sound awesome, for their 
size.
They sound especially good w/bass blockers, and a good subwoofer w/amp.

I like Pioneer and Kenwood, but I've had problems with my Pioneers... 2 used 
Pioneer decks stopped working, and the on and off lighting on my new Pioneer 
5800 is really annoying at night.

Peter - 302.832.8989
thescirocco.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rave Racer 77" <raveracer77@yahoo.ca>
To: "Lance LaPrarie" <sciroccojunky@gmail.com>; "Scirocco-L" 
<Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Ice Opinions


>
>    I can't remember who I was helping with this topic before so I'll 
> repeat alot of it.  The Deck primarily is based on user preference. 
> Control layout is my primary concern.  Reliability second, Power third, 
> Functionality fourth, some other minor stuff, gimicks last.  I like 
> Kenwood, they're a good solid performer and the controls USED to be 
> perfect.  The new one I picked up was the KDC X590.  After some months of 
> use and this being my third Kenwood I had some high expectations.  Before 
> I go any further I'll touch on some of the other brands.  Clarion was last 
> time I checked one of the premium decks, lots of power and clarity though 
> maybe very expensive for the some models questionable reliability. 
> Panasonic is a good reliable deck I've never heard alot of complaints 
> about.  Alpines I hate, every Vdub I've ever bought had one in it, 
> including the Audi and they've all over heated, skipped and been general 
> all round junk.  Some people will only have Alpines though, just personal 
> opinion.  All of my cars vibrated violently once I got my hands on those 
> motors, that may have been the problem.  Sony is a standard deck with some 
> neat toys but a good performer for very cheap. Worth looking into.
>    This new deck I have is good, but I do have one complaint.  The track 
> control is a joystick on the face of the deck that has a lateral motion 
> for track skip, but also a vertical motion for folder searching.  My jump 
> drive only has one folder and a bump in the road while messing with the 
> track skip will make me push up and skip back to the beginning of the 
> playlist. Bonus's include a built in frequency filter to filter out lows 
> for your small speakers (mostly plays high freq's) and you can filter out 
> your highs for your subs.  It sounds like a Gimmick but it's actually very 
> good at putting the right parts of the sounds where you want them.
>    Now for speakers.  I haven't looked into brands very much but there are 
> some things that never change.  I like 5.25" or bigger in my doors so I 
> can get some mid range up front.  This is kind of big but it makes for a 
> more complete sound.  Infinity is what came in the GLI and they're really 
> quite good actually.  For some reason the rear deck has smaller speakers 
> but I think they were installed to replace stock size 4.5", also Infinity. 
> I'd like to put my 6X9's back there and just haven't gotten to it yet. 
> They're a funny shape but you can get good high power out of them with 
> clear mids and a good overall freq response.  Also if you get three way or 
> four way you get highs out of them aswell.  I wouldn't go lower then a 6" 
> speaker if you decide to stick with round speakers.  My last 6X9's were 
> Kenwood 400W 4way with a gel filled driver.  These were overkill for just 
> me who likes to listen to my music for myself, not show.  I think my next 
> set will be probably Sony 200W 3ways because my tens in the trunk cover 
> more spectrum and the Sony's work and aren't a fortune, but keep in mind I 
> haven't researched this yet.  Up front I've never messed with the 3" in 
> the dash. These tweeters are supposed to be for highs only and I don't 
> think they're that good, but are just to fill out the sound in the cabin. 
> I didn't realize how well they worked until I disconnected the drivers 
> side one when I rewired my drivers door and bypassed it completely.  A 
> GOOD replacement will pierce your ears but my brother had a set of 1.5" 
> Mitsubishi's a few years ago and they were damn near a fortune for what I 
> think he got.  I'll stick with fixing my dash speakers thanks.
>    For the trunk, I use a closed box with two tens because they give the 
> fastest hits.  In low frequencies the speakers flex more for the same 
> loudness and the reflex takes longer to settle between beats.  If you 
> listen to Rap where a low rumble is wanted you can make do with a single 
> 12 or larger.  For the Techno I listen to where low rumbling base is rare, 
> two tens reflex faster and are ready for the next beat so it gives a good 
> solid hit in quick sequence.  If you're putting in one ten then you might 
> as well put in two and increase your volume.  Tens also are still capable 
> of playing some mids broadening the sound of the overall package.  Now in 
> a Hatch back, I don't know how good they'll sound.  An enclosed trunk like 
> my Jetta it has a chance to reverberate and it works better.  I think that 
> Boom Tubes are a simple solution to cover alot of problems and expense to 
> give a wide range of Frequency's for a system that no one intends to 
> compete with.  For personal listening it might satisfy you and the price 
> is much easier to live with.
>    Hope that helps.
>
>      Rave Racer
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> ___________________________________________
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lance LaPrarie" <sciroccojunky@gmail.com>
> To: "Scirocco-L" <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:48
> Subject: Ice Opinions
>
>
>> Ok,
>>
>> *I know that opinions are like assholes, everyones got one. So, I'm 
>> hoping
>> to pin down some ideas for my car. This will be a full show system. Not a
>> blingey neon, lcd fest though. Very basic and clean. My motor sounds good
>> but like music too. Thinking door speakers, and rear speakers with a sub 
>> is
>> fine. Don't want to go overboard. I'm going with separates in the doors 
>> and
>> separates in the rear sides of the parcel shelf. Also an 8 inch sub in 
>> the
>> cavity behind the passenger wheel well. Previously occupied by the rear
>> window washer resevoir. *
>> **
>> *So, this is my question, Need to know what amps, speakers and deck 
>> people
>> would recommend. I've got a few choices I've come up with but car audio
>> isn't my forte'. These are what I came up with after doing some 
>> searching.
>> I've got power window door cards already to build up some custom pods. 
>> Want
>> to have the speakers and stuff first so I can build everything knowing 
>> exact
>> dimensions, etc......*
>> **
>> *Thinking of a Clarion deck not sure what model (Ideas?), MB Quart RCE268 
>> in
>> the rear sides (custom plates), MB Quart RVF 213 front doors (custom 
>> pods).
>> The sub is a JL Audio 8W3v2 I know I want JL audio sub. Amps I'm not 100%
>> sure what is good. I was thinking of two 400w 4 channel Alpine amps to 
>> power
>> everything. Also heard Boston makes a six channel that may work. I'm 
>> going
>> to mount the amp or amp's on the inside of the license plate area in the
>> trunk. That way when someone looks in the trunk they don't see any amps
>> right away. Want to go stealth but custom as well. Not sure if you can 
>> have
>> both but that is what I'm thinking. *
>> **
>> *Let me know what you all think. Got a nice tax return burning a hole in 
>> my
>> pocket.*
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