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moving to Canada legally (LOOOONG... but good info)



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rave Racer 77" <raveracer77@xxxxxxxx>
To: "Rave Racer 77" <raveracer77@xxxxxxxx>; "John S. Lagnese" 
<jlagnese@xxxxxxxxxx>; <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: moving to Canada legally (LOOOONG... but good info)


>
>    Now that I've thought it over, depending on which province she's going 
> into, if she can prove that she's lived with him for more then a certain 
> amount of time (3 years for Ontario) then she can claim Common law spouse 
> I think.  It might be worth looking into if it gets her papers faster.
>
>      Rave Racer
> Current:
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> '81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2
> '86 Fox
> 2 GTI parts cars
>
> Gone:
> '89 Jetta 1.8L 16V GTX
> '87 Audi 4000 Quattro
> '72 Triumph GT6
>
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> ___________________________________________
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rave Racer 77" <raveracer77@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "John S. Lagnese" <jlagnese@xxxxxxxxxx>; <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 18:08
> Subject: Re: moving to Canada legally (LOOOONG... but good info)
>
>
>> Here is the Canadian site:
>>
>> http://www.cic.gc.ca/
>>
>> This is the wrong direction but they might have info:
>>
>> http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
>>
>> I've been trying to get my wife down for over a year now.  I've been 
>> pretty quiet on the list up until lately because she's been visiting for 
>> over a month.  Catching up.... you know.  Montreal is the main office HQ 
>> for the US Embassy in Canada and they'll do everything but if you're 
>> trying to go to Canada you might want to talk to the Canadians instead. 
>> Rules up until the last couple of years used to be...  US Citizens are 
>> allowed to cross the border for visitation for up to 6 months but this 
>> was unregulated so if no one stamped your passport, no one knew how long 
>> you'd been there and you could pretty much stay as long as you wanted. 
>> That's how it used to be. With the tightening up of the US side of the 
>> border (Leaving Canada) the Canadian Authorities have decided maybe 
>> they'll do the same.
>>
>> Before I give any advice remember to take it simply as that... Advice. 
>> My experiences with immigration have been horrible on both sides of the 
>> border as a born and raised Dual Citizen (Half Breed) I have seen many 
>> horrible things that should have never been allowed to happen in the name 
>> of so called "Security".
>> Story one should be familiar by now:  The day after my wedding last year 
>> I tried to cross the border heading south (US border) with new wife in 
>> tow. I told the truth, every bit of it and regret it, every bit of it.  I 
>> had called USCIS 6 months earlier and been given bad information on how 
>> to cross.  July 23, 2006, the day after my wedding, my wife was finger 
>> printed, mugshots were taken and her passport red flagged and she was not 
>> allowed into the country.  I am Military and could not skip out on work 
>> to deal with a situation that was out of hand.  My anniversary of course 
>> is July 22, but I don't remember that day as well as the 23rd.
>> Story two is about my Flight Captain who married a local RN originally 
>> from Hamilton who was already here on a temp work Visa.  In the attempt 
>> to have her work Visa transfered over to a Marriage Visa they were going 
>> to revoke her work Visa.  The Revocation would have been immediate while 
>> the new Marriage Visa was in the mail.  This close to the Mexico border 
>> there are Border stations on all the major highways going north and a 
>> routine trip to El Paso would mean going through one of these.  When my 
>> Captain asked what they should say at the border guard, the official said 
>> to Lie. He said that was unnacceptable and that they were not allowed to 
>> revoke her work Visa. They made an acception to the rule and allowed her 
>> to keep it until the new one came.
>>
>> So now my shadey advice
>>
>> Unwritten Rule #1: If you don't have anything prepared (Visas or 
>> Citizenship papers) don't claim any relation and she'll get across 
>> without any hassle. Before we were married my then girl friend was 
>> allowed to come visit me on three occasions without any trouble.  Once 
>> married she was considered a "Flight Risk" and subsequently denied... 
>> hence my drinking.
>>
>> Unwritten Rule #2: Lie, Lie, Lie.... and if you get caught, Lie.  Nobody 
>> knows the truth about anything at any point and every bit of it is 
>> heresay at every point of their questioning.  Unless you have drugs on 
>> you, and in the case of Canada maybe weapons, you're golden.  Just don't 
>> push it about paying duty taxes on junk.
>>
>> Unwritten Rule #3: Stick to your story.  They'll question you endlessly 
>> and get mad when you repeat yourself after they repeat the same question 
>> back to you 30 times.  Get mad back, they're idiots and are trying to 
>> trip you up and when it doesn't work, they get frustrated.  If you don't 
>> get riled easily, it's actually fun to watch.
>>
>> Good luck and don't mention my real name to anybody at the border... if 
>> they check you'll be held there and questioned for hours.  I should hope 
>> going into Canada would be easy.
>>
>>      Rave Racer
>> Current:
>> '91 Jetta GLI 2.0L 16V
>> '81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2
>> '86 Fox
>> 2 GTI parts cars
>>
>> Gone:
>> '89 Jetta 1.8L 16V GTX
>> '87 Audi 4000 Quattro
>> '72 Triumph GT6
>>
>> http://spaces.msn.com/raveracer77/photos/
>> http://www.myspace.com/rave_racer
>> ___________________________________________
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John S. Lagnese" <jlagnese@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 07:50
>> Subject: OT: moving to Canada legally
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Some friends of mine are moving back to Canada. She has MS and can't 
>>> afford her medication here so... They  both dual Canadian/ US 
>>> citizenship so they can move back. Their son can go with some paperwork 
>>> and money. His girlfriend, who has lived with them for 3 years is a US 
>>> citizen. Is anyone familiar withthe procedure on how a US citixen can 
>>> get a visa to go to Canada for a prolonged stay or know where to point 
>>> me?
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
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