Air-powered car?

[haygood at myway.com (Brian Haygood)]

Well, I'll accept the term Moron as slang for ignorant and trusting for the time being (just kidding).  As for the Ethanol REI, it's still a decent enough deal if you are, say, Brazil, and can make enough of it in house to run almost anything.  E85 is equivalent to what, 109octane, I think the number was.  If it gets anywhere at all in the US it will be because people think its a bigger deal than it is.  What was the name of that brushy plant you can supposedly get twice the ethanol from?  It grows without any help in most of Texas and Oklahoma and give twice the ethanol per acre as the Brazilians' sugar cane and like 4 times what corn does.  Sorry I can't remember enough to speak coherently, but it sounds more promising that most alternatives.  The idea that you could chip or retune just about anything to run on it (ethanol) is somewhat encouraging in the short run.



As for solar cells to power air compressors to power cars, why don't you go ahead and use the solar cells to produce electricity to run your home, and maybe charge the batteries in your electric car (if you are comfortable with the whole battery polution thing), and leave the inneficient bits of air compression out of it.  Better yet, use the electricity in your home and run your car on the best current alternative - diesel.



BH 









 --- On Sun 10/29, David Utley < fahrvergnugen@cox.net > wrote:

From: David Utley [mailto: fahrvergnugen@cox.net]

To: scirocco@vintagewatercooleds.com, camron@worldaccessnet.com

     Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org

Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:49:21 -0600

Subject: RE: Air-powered car?



Eric,  The morons believe they are doing something good because they believe thepoliticians have told them they are.  Most folks don't research it anyfurther.  IMO, that makes them ignorant, and trusting, but not morons...:-DDavid-----Original Message-----From: Eric S [mailto:scirocco@vintagewatercooleds.com] Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:43 PMTo: Camron D. CrouseCc: scirocco-l@scirocco.orgSubject: Re: Air-powered car?Ethanol is absolute garbage, and the link you provided is absolutelycorrect.  Ethanol has a negative REI (Return on Energy Invested).Flex fuel is for morons that THINK they are doing something good.And now Cameron, some reading for you:http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/-- Ericwww.vintagewatercooleds.com1979 Dasher Coupe 2.0 8v1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)Camron D. Crouse said:> Eric S wrote:>>> Rave Racer (and you guys were giving me shit about not using my real>> name>> 10 years 
ago) is correct here though, using easily accessable "free">> energy like Solar, this motor could be quite efficient.  Biggest>> maintainance item I could see would be the air dyers needed so the tank>> in>> the car wouldn't rot.  Someone like me that lives in a very dry climate,>> and very sunny, could have a very simple closed system with solar panels>> on my garage, and never have to pay for gas again (bonus, you could run>> your air tools for "free" as well).>>>> Regardless, if done properly, this is a MUCH safer, and *possibly* more>> efficient system than hydrogen (fuel cell or piston engine).>>> Sounds like someone has been hanging out in the Tesla Motors blogs...>> http://www.teslamotors.com/blog1/index.php?p=22&js_enabled=1>>> - Camron from Vancouver, WA USA>     '86.5 Black 16V 2.0L Scirocco>> _______________________________________________> Scirocco-l mailing list> Scirocco-l@scirocco.org> 
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