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Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
- Subject: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
- From: sharpshooter33 at adelphia.net (sharpshooter33@adelphia.net)
- Date: Fri Mar 31 16:58:46 2006
Cool,
So I'm on the right track with my stock 16v dizzy. I've got a v3 board coming. It looks like it should be simple to setup. Yea your right the tables will be another thing, but if I get to that point I'll be a happy camper.
I'm hoping to complete my project thru the winter...If I can get enough knowledge by then to actually get it installed and up and working. I'm hoping I will be able to go MSnS-E without problems. But I'm real anxious since I'm not that experienced with all this and there's not alot of people in my area to draw on. That's why I'm excited about Cincy meet so I can see some installed and talk to people that have done it. If I get it running and actually get to the tables I'll consider it a successful project for me!!!
I'm sure I'll be beating you up with questions Dan when I get to the point of actually working on my MS. So PLEASE stay on the list! You guys are the only help I have available.
Thanks
David
86(newly aquired) 16v Turbo project car RUNNING NOW!!!!
86 16v awaiting face lift in front
84 8v organ donor
86 8v Jetta GLI - Hoping to be running one day as my daily driver!
---- Dan Bubb <jdbubb@verizon.net> wrote:
> Yes, you are correct, the 16V has a fixed distributor, but the 8V that Timbo has doesn't.
> The setup in Megatune is pretty straight forward, unless you're triggering off of a crank wheel. Then it can get a little obtuse.
> But you still have to tune it! There's a 12 X 12 spark table where you set advance for each of 12 load points and 12 RPM points!
> That's where the fun is. ;^)
> Dan
>
> From: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
>
>
> > Dan,
> > I thought the 16v dizzy's had hall with no vacuum advance? Thought is was
> > all done with the ICU and Knock? The 2.2PCB they had a table for the
> > setting on the timing for starters. I'm not real up on the spark timing,
> > but it looked like on there drawings they set it 10degrees then set the
> > trigger somewhere around 60? Sounded like they had it knocked down to an
> > art.
> >
> > Here's the 2 threads I was talking about. Am I missing something on the
> > setup?
> >
> > http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1377841
> > 2.2v
> > http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2505864
> > 3v
> >
> > Thanks
> > David
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@verizon.net>
> > To: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net>; "scirocco scirocco"
> > <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
> >
> >
> > Yeah, there isn't much to it, but don't forget you need to substitute a
> > fixed advance distributor for the normal mechanical and vacuum advance
> > distributor.
> > And let's not forget you need to have an idea of what advance the engine
> > needs to have across the load/RPM ranges.
> > There's no easy tool to help ignition tuning like the WB-O2 assists with
> > fuel tuning. Just avoiding ping or knock isn't enough.
> > Dan
> >
> > From: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net>
> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
> >
> >
> >> I've been reading up on the V3PCB. Doesn't look like there much to do if
> >> you change over to MSnS-E. Couple changes on the board, Code and just run
> >> new Hall connector to the MSI direct and set timing. Just something to
> >> think about if you run ahead of schedule. 8-)
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> David
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Timbo" <timjmcconnell@gmail.com>
> >> To: "Rick Kellner" <rfkellner@snet.net>
> >> Cc: "Scirocco list" <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 7:53 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm not going to be running MSnS-e at first, because I am not
> >> controling ignition at this point. I've heard that it's possible to
> >> provide enrichment via MAP readings though. I think I may look into a
> >> ford or a japanese TPS though - it'll be more reliable than a bosh, I
> >> bet.
> >>
> >> --Timbo
> >>
> >> On 3/30/06, Rick Kellner <rfkellner@snet.net> wrote:
> >>> Timbo, I am by no means a MS expert and have no first hand experience
> >>> but that is never stopped me before. I have done a little reading on
> >>> the MS but please correct me if I am on the wrong track.
> >>> Are you running MSnS-e? If so, it is my understanding that you do not
> >>> need a TPS. MSnS-e monitors manifold pressure and provides enrichment
> >>> based on this input.
> >>> IMHO the value of an auto Passat TPS has become ridiculous and you are
> >>> still at the mercy of its reliability. If you do have to go with a TPS
> >>> it would be interesting to see if there are any alternatives. A TPS is
> >>> just a simple variable resistor. Maybe something from a GM, Ford, etc?
> >>> Thanks, Rick.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Timbo [mailto:timjmcconnell@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:51 AM
> >>> To: Scirocco list
> >>> Subject: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
> >>>
> >>> Yep - you heard it here first. My white car is getting the megasquirt
> >>> on the regular 1.8 8v. I'm just going to run digifant injectors with
> >>> the stock ignition, but it'll run!
> >>>
> >>> Also starring in the car is a 800W-1600max power inverter. For mucho
> >>> laptop tuning usage. Also - much burning of CDs could happen as well.
> >>> ETKA anyone? bring blank CDs.
> >>>
> >>> Now. I hafta make it run before June - so I need some help here. I'm
> >>> still looking for a Throttle position sensor throttle body for the
> >>> car. If anybody has one for sale or whatever - let me know!!
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Timbo!
> >>> Location: Glenside, PA!
> >>> www.vintagewatercooleds.com/tech
> >>>
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> >> Timbo!
> >> Location: Glenside, PA!
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