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Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco

Subject: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
From: jdbubb at verizon.net (Dan Bubb)
Date: Fri Mar 31 13:30:27 2006
References: <33461dc20603300851hf1d1c05ybab5668e8d67f427@mail.gmail.com><002e01c6546a$e80ed2f0$6401a8c0@kellnerhmypj1x><33461dc20603310453v1dff57bauae828a10f13d49fc@mail.gmail.com><009601c654ed$2f460c60$6e02a8c0@sharpshooter33><006601c654f2$8c9a2950$b709b9d0@4WAVE> <010201c654f6$aac73db0$6e02a8c0@sharpshooter33> <000801c654f7$b23bda00$6e02a8c0@sharpshooter33>

A word of caution here.
The TPS on ABA TB works backwards. i.e. the voltage decreases as throttle opening increases.
Don't know if the Passat TPS is backwards or not, but it's worth checking. If it's backwards the MS thinks it's in flood clear at low throttle openings and will not inject!
An easy wire swap fixes it.
Dan

From: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco


> Aaaahh I see Timbo may have aquired a TB w/TPS 8-)
> 
> http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2528153
> cheers
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net>
> To: "scirocco scirocco" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
> 
> 
>> Dan,
>> I thought the 16v dizzy's had hall with no vacuum advance?  Thought is was 
>> all done with the ICU and Knock?  The 2.2PCB they had a table for the 
>> setting on the timing for starters.  I'm not real up on the spark timing, 
>> but it looked like on there drawings they set it 10degrees then set the 
>> trigger somewhere around 60?  Sounded like they had it knocked down to an 
>> art.
>>
>> Here's the 2 threads I was talking about. Am I missing something on the 
>> setup?
>>
>> http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1377841
>> 2.2v
>> http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2505864
>> 3v
>>
>> Thanks
>> David
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@verizon.net>
>> To: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net>; "scirocco scirocco" 
>> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
>>
>>
>> Yeah, there isn't much to it, but don't forget you need to substitute a 
>> fixed advance distributor for the normal mechanical and vacuum advance 
>> distributor.
>> And let's not forget you need to have an idea of what advance the engine 
>> needs to have across the load/RPM ranges.
>> There's no easy tool to help ignition tuning like the WB-O2 assists with 
>> fuel tuning. Just avoiding ping or knock isn't enough.
>> Dan
>>
>> From: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net>
>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
>>
>>
>>> I've been reading up on the V3PCB.  Doesn't look like there much to do if
>>> you change over to MSnS-E.  Couple changes on the board, Code and just 
>>> run
>>> new Hall connector to the MSI direct and set timing.  Just something to
>>> think about if you run ahead of schedule. 8-)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> David
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Timbo" <timjmcconnell@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Rick Kellner" <rfkellner@snet.net>
>>> Cc: "Scirocco list" <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 7:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not going to be running MSnS-e at first, because I am not
>>> controling ignition at this point. I've heard that it's possible to
>>> provide enrichment via MAP readings though. I think I may look into a
>>> ford or a japanese TPS though - it'll be more reliable than a bosh, I
>>> bet.
>>>
>>> --Timbo
>>>
>>> On 3/30/06, Rick Kellner <rfkellner@snet.net> wrote:
>>>> Timbo, I am by no means a MS expert and have no first hand experience
>>>> but that is never stopped me before.  I have done a little reading on
>>>> the MS but please correct me if I am on the wrong track.
>>>> Are you running MSnS-e?  If so, it is my understanding that you do not
>>>> need a TPS.  MSnS-e monitors manifold pressure and provides enrichment
>>>> based on this input.
>>>> IMHO the value of an auto Passat TPS has become ridiculous and you are
>>>> still at the mercy of its reliability.  If you do have to go with a TPS
>>>> it would be interesting to see if there are any alternatives.  A TPS is
>>>> just a simple variable resistor.  Maybe something from a GM, Ford, etc?
>>>> Thanks, Rick.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Timbo [mailto:timjmcconnell@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:51 AM
>>>> To: Scirocco list
>>>> Subject: Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
>>>>
>>>> Yep - you heard it here first. My white car is getting the megasquirt
>>>> on the regular 1.8 8v. I'm just going to run digifant injectors with
>>>> the stock ignition, but it'll run!
>>>>
>>>> Also starring in the car is a 800W-1600max power inverter. For mucho
>>>> laptop tuning usage. Also - much burning of CDs could happen as well.
>>>> ETKA anyone? bring blank CDs.
>>>>
>>>> Now. I hafta make it run before June - so I need some help here. I'm
>>>> still looking for a Throttle position sensor throttle body for the
>>>> car. If anybody has one for sale or whatever - let me know!!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Timbo!
>>>> Location: Glenside, PA!
>>>> www.vintagewatercooleds.com/tech
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
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>>> Location: Glenside, PA!
>>> www.vintagewatercooleds.com/tech
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References:
- Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
  - From: timjmcconnell at gmail.com (Timbo)
- Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
  - From: rfkellner at snet.net (Rick Kellner)
- Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
  - From: timjmcconnell at gmail.com (Timbo)
- Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
  - From: sharpshooter33 at adelphia.net (David Brown)
- Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
  - From: jdbubb at verizon.net (Dan Bubb)
- Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
  - From: sharpshooter33 at adelphia.net (David Brown)
- Timbo is coming to cincy in a megasquirt rocco
  - From: sharpshooter33 at adelphia.net (David Brown)

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