90mm vs 100mm - that is the question

[fahrvergnugen at cox.net (David Utley)]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>
To: "'David Utley'" <fahrvergnugen@cox.net>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:45 PM
Subject: RE: 90mm vs 100mm - that is the question


> David,
>
> I just checked ETKA, and they only have one part no. for each hub carrier,
> for '85, you can check each year up to '89 , if you want, but they all
> accept 100mm CV's. ;)
> '85 A2 Left 191 407 255 B and the right one is 191 407 256 B.
>

I agree.  However, if you look in the Golf heading GOM (as opposed to GOU,
Golf/American made)
starting in '89, that should show a different part number.  :-)

> The early A2's had hub carriers with built in brake carriers, so you are
> locked into to 9.4" rotors.
>
Again, IIRC the later ones do not have this trouble, but to be honest I have
not put my
hands on them and compared...


> > I have learned that this is not true.  A GTI might have the larger-holed
> > spindles, but not all of them do.
> They all went to the larger holed
> > spindles in either 88 or 89.  If you find a Golf with a VIN of 3, it is
> made
> > in Mexico, and it will have the larger-holed spindle.
> >
> > David
>
> I don't know about that, ETKA makes no mention of this and they have the
> built in brake carriers, making them almost useless.
>
> Peter
> http://thescirocco.com/
>

Look over in GOM and you should be seeing what I have seen.

I would show specifc pages in mind, but I am trying to upgrade ETKA as we
speak, and it is not currently running...  :-(

David

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Utley [mailto:fahrvergnugen@cox.net]
>
> > > > The CV bolts are the same, but the lock plates are
> > > > different.
> > > >
> > > > The only difference on the spindles, is that the
> > > > inside lip, where the outer
> > > > stub makes contact, and they can easily be opened up
> > > > to accept the 100mm
> > > > CV's.
> > > >
> > > > I usually pull them from Mk.2's, or buy them cheap.
> > >
> > >
> > > So Peter, you're saying a MK2 should not have
> > > clearance issues at the spindle for a 100mm joint, correct?
> > >
> > > All '85, and up, [A1's] came with 100mm CV's.
> > >
> >
> > I have learned that this is not true.  A GTI might have the larger-holed
> > spindles, but not all of them do.  They all went to the larger holed
> > spindles in either 88 or 89.  If you find a Golf with a VIN of 3, it is
> made
> > in Mexico, and it will have the larger-holed spindle.
> >
> > David
> >
> > Did you miss the A1?
> >
> > "All '85, and up, [A1's] came with 100mm CV's."
> >
>
> I guess so, indeed they did not come with 100mm.
>
> > All the A2's I've seen, have accepted 100mm CV's.
> >
> > Peter
> >
>
> No flammage intended, Peter.  :-)
>
>   I was looking into getting a set of A2 spindles to put on my A1 GTI
> because the A2s have their steering arms (the part that accepts the
> tie-rod?) higher up.  This allows a lowered car to have its' steering arms
> at a more desirable location, parallel with the ground.  I did some
> reasearch, and WackyWabbitRacer as well as Racer X helped with that
> information.  I trst their experience, as they have both been in the SCCA
> scene for a good while, and are known sources for good information.  I
> regret that I have only confirmed their information with what I have found
> on ETKA, and have not seen this in person.  Any interested parties should
> bear this in mind if you begin to look into this seriously...
>
> David
>
>