[OT] What's it worth? '83 Audi Urq

[raveracer77 at yahoo.ca (Rave Racer 77)]

    I'm sorry Nate, but at this point you've been twice bitten.  Still 
technically a dub yet a whole new culture all it's own.  If you do get it 
there's a list at Audifans.com and one at Audiworld.  Audifans was the one I 
was a member of for 4 years while I had my Quat and is more like this list 
for it's information and acceptance, however expect over 150 emails a day. 
Now that's dedication, on the otherhand there is Audiworld where people talk 
about the newer stuff  nearer to the B5 and up and what color they should 
paint, how much HP neon lights add... so think the Vortexier version of Audi 
lists.  Still informative but you have to do research before asking 
questions about anything otherwise you'll get flamed.  If you're a member of 
Audiworld now and you disagree, go ahead, lie to the rest of us, I dare you. 
For UrQ's, definately go to Audifans for their knowledge, they like the 
older cars more and they'll not only welcome you but be excited.  There is a 
List in Toronto on Yahoo groups as well that I was a member of and there are 
actually a number of UrQ's there including a wide body.  We did some ice 
racing events which you can see at my racing pictures on the MSN spaces link 
below.
    You'll notice I won't try to convince you to try it, or deter you from 
it.  I will say that having a Mk1 or 2 back ground definately helps... ALOT! 
I loved my Quat, right until the moment when I couldn't afford to fix it 
anymore and the local constabulary helped me out of my addiction with a 1 
step program (yes, I consider my Mk1 a relapse).  It's a good find, but 
expect problems... and expect them to be obscure and weird, but being a 
Sciroccophile you should be used to at least some of that.  I will tell you 
a few big points for that car that might be an issue that you might already 
know having a Quantum that shares most of these parts.  Diff locks are 
vacuum operated and sometimes get gummed up, that's the same among all first 
gen Quat's.  New ones are nearly non existant or costly but you can take 
them apart and clean them out and as long as you use them regularly once 
you've freed them up you should be fine.  Don't tow it faster then 50 Mph 
with diff's open, or at all with one or both closed.  Funny for people who 
don't care about our chosen brands, a crying shame when you see it happen to 
someone who didn't know.  Those plug wires are a fortune.  It cost me 400 
for mine on my 10V NA motor, so I can only imagine how much more they would 
be for that Turbo motor.  On the bright side, the motors are as swappable as 
our dubs, and if you can find yourself a UrS4 that's been rear ended, grab 
that motor... I think it's called a 2B, but don't quote me on that, I've 
forgotten more then I should have.  It's a 2.2L 20V Turbo, roughly 220 hp, 
and it fits... with some work.  A great motor that's tough and has a 
fantastic sound, well all 5Cyl's do.  Also on the stock 10V motor it should 
still have a CIS-E Fuel system so it's just like most old school dubs.  An 
easier motor to find would be the 160 hp 10V turbo from the 5000 Quattro. 
It should bolt right up without a lot of extra work and they're a bit more 
common.
    That's just a general overview but unless you know how to and enjoy 
doing bodywork, the cancer on these can be devastating.  This is just my 
fanatacism but I'd say that any UrQ is worth the extra look.  Good luck.

            ....... and... breath.

       Rave Racer
'81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L Digifant 2
'89 Jetta 1.8L 16V GTX  gone but not forgotten
'87 Audi 4000 Quattro
 http://www.audifans.com/registry/view.php?action=viewCar&carid=110
'72 Triumph GT6
 http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/50-50-111014_20raveracer-gt6-1.jpg
'83 Toyota Tercel (yoda)    Why? It was FREE!

 http://spaces.msn.com/raveracer77/photos/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nate Mellom" <doubt@inwave.com>
To: "Scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; "Syncro list" 
<syncronized@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 16:47
Subject: [OT] What's it worth? '83 Audi Urq


> Made a big mistake and took the back way home, and there it sat, all nasty 
> and red, an '83 Audi quattro coupe turbo. Talked to the guy that didn't 
> own it, he called the guy who does own it.  It's been sitting in a barn 
> for 8 years, clutch went bad (dunno if it's a bad clutch, or maybe bad 
> clutch hydraulics), mice have chewed through the vacuum lines, and the 
> motor has stuck rings, so it won't turn over, he's been soaking them with 
> WD-40 (I assume via the plug holes).  No plug wires, all the plugs are 
> snapped off above the hex, so should be removable.  Severe (possibly 
> teminal) rust under the sills and jacking points, ala Mk1. Rust pooking 
> out of the body kit behind the front tires, otherwise the body is in 
> fairly good shape.   Leather, in good shape, needs to be cleaned and 
> treated.  Stock 15" Ronal R8s with crappy tires.  quattro system looks to 
> be in good shape, but could have issues.
>
> He told me it was for sale, but didn't have any clue how much he wants for 
> it.  On one hand, it's an ultra-rare piece of history (this car introduced 
> the world to quattro, and there were precious few imported to the states), 
> and the tend to sell for $15-20,000 in prime shape.  On the other hand, 
> it's rusty, it needs an engine, and who knows what else it would take to 
> get it going.  The seller is also selling a mid '80's Mustang convertible, 
> a Chrylser minivan, and a Monte Carlo SS project with no motor, racing 
> stripes and a big hole cut in the hood for a blower.  He was mostly 
> uninformative on the phone, basically, it's an '83, it's for sale, and 
> everything he has is for sale, for the right money.  I'm banking on the 
> fact that he doesn't know what he has, and maybe I could get it cheap.  If 
> it were any other car, it'd be a $500 sale, tops, but how far does the 
> heritage go?
>
> Of course I don't need it, or have room for it, so something would have to 
> go.  So, options:
>
> '87 VW Quantum Syncro:  It's an Audi 4000 wagon, with quattro.  Rare, one 
> of only 3000 or so sold in the US.  In good shape, my wife likes it, and 
> it's great (er...GREAT) in the winter.
>
> '81 Roc:  Rusty as all hell, fenders are mostly gone, jack goes through 
> both jacking points, and the rear swingarm attaching points are almost 
> toast.  Currently has a seized caliper and a few electic glitches, but it 
> runs like a top, but by all rights should be junk-yard bound.
>
> '88 16v:  My newest aquisition, and I'm not planning on selling it, it's 
> my DD, and currently the only road-worthy car I own.
>
> AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!
> Why the hell did I go the back way?
>
> Help!
> Nate
>
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