Tire mouting problems

[roccit_53 at scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca (C Boyko)]

My Bug's 17" ADR Demonyas (yeah, look them up, bet you've never seen a set)
have an odd internal profile, which is backwards to normal wheels. I have
them sent out to a place with a very expensive machine, and they do them
face down. They charge the same for a mount and balance as the other shops
I've dealt with, and do a great job. I've "discussed" mounting my stock
Beetle rims with two different local shops who said they'd had "no
problems" with VW rims, and subsequently machined aluminum out of their
faces,  I no longer care, they'r scarred for life now. And I know where not
to go with my good rims.

Cathy

On 9:52:11 am 09/04/05 Don Walter <dswalterwi@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had a similar problem back in June the night before traveling to
> Cincy 2005. I took my 16" Kossei Racing Seneka's to Tires Plus who I
> had called to find out if they could handle the low profile tires
> 205/40R40 Kumho SPT's. A kid there tried mounting them normally and
> ended up breaking the special through the wheel metal valve stems
> (which is a whole other story). The supervisor finally realized that
> the wheels need to be mounted upside down to work on the machine
> correctly.  While getting ready for the show at Treffen I was
> cleanning wheels only to find two of them were damaged by their
> machine. One had 4 sets of jaw clamp marks on it and the other one
> had a big gouge in it. Both were way on the back side that can't
> easily seen when mounted. To top it all off these wheels are no
> longer available.

>  On 9/3/05, Jim Ruffi <sciroccos@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >  I went to my friend's shop to mount my new tires on my new wheels
> >  the other
> >  day. He has a 20 year old Snap-On wheel machine. Not
> >  state-of-the-art, but it has proven itself through hundreds of
> >  mountings and dismountings. We couldn't get the tires on the
> >  rims....it was as though they were too tight.
> >
> >  So, I grabbed up the stuff and headed to the tire department of
> >  the local wholesale club. They are always nice there and do lots
> >  of low-profile tires
> >  on big rims, plus their equipment is new. The guy was perplexed. He
> >  couldn't get the tire to reach around the rim. It's as though the
> >  rim was a
> >  15 1/2 and the tire was a 15"
> >
> >  Here's what I think. The rims (ATS) cups have a very deep outer
> >  lip. When you work the second half of a tire onto the rim, it's
> >  necessary to get the tire to slip into the narrower (diameter)
> >  part of the rim, just inside the are where the bead makes contact.
> >  Only these rims have such a wide lip, that it's nearly impossible
> >  to push the tire into the narrow area. It would
> >  make more sense to put the wheels face-down in the tire machine
> >  and stretch
> >  the back of the tire last....but I'm worried about the tire
> >  machine messing
> >  up the paint on the wheels.
> >
> >  Tires are EV100, 195/50-15
> >
> >  Make sense???
> >  Thanks.
> >
> >  Jim
> >
> >
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