Crossmember Bar design

[fahrvegnugen at cox.net (David Utley)]

I sir corrected...  :-P  I meant to say that the design of the front-ends is
only slightly similar, the bit that goes between the fenders and holds the
radiators...  The scirocco has much more depth, and as far as I can tell, a
completely different shape, not only because of cosmetics...

Sorry for the lack of specificity...

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Bubb [mailto:jdbubb@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:55 AM
To: David Utley; Larry Fry; Nate Lowe; Allyn
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: Crossmember Bar design

>
> and to make sure that the bar stays a simple bolt on
> product. Again, that's only IF it needs improvement.
>
> ****Therein lies the problem:  it will take more than a simple, bolt on
> device to permanetly correct this.  This motor mount thing was originally
> designed to be inexpensive, and durability was apparently not a concern in
> this late '70's design for an economy car.  Remember, this is a Rabbit
> chassis....Rabbits were designed to a price point.....it is NOT a 2005
> BMW.
>
> Larry
> sandiego16v  ****
>
> Not to nitpick too much Larry, but the front end on the Scirocco is only
> slightly similar to the Rabbit.  What's more is I have never seen nor
> heard
> of any Rabbit having this trouble.  Methinks this problem came from
> Karmann,
> and not Pennsyvania...
>
> David

Not to nitpick too much but "slightly similar" is a gross underestimation!
All the suspension and engine mounting points are exactly in the same place.
To the casual observer the chassis (as opposed to the external sheet metal)
appears virtually identical except for the difference in the height of the
cowl.
So, let's not skew the arguement too far in any direction.
Perhaps "slightly different" is more approapriate.
Or perhaps you can provide some hard numbers on the difference in material
thickness that will back up your claim of "slightly similar"????
Dan