Crossmember Bars

[scirocco at vintagewatercooleds.com (Eric S)]

Larry,

I agree we shouldn't go into this again.  You made your opinion clear last
time, and I thought you had said your peace.  Apparently not.

What you see as my defensiveness is not that...I am more annoyed with your
know-it-all attitude than anything.

If you really think you know everything, and assume that "we all know its
impossible that this can work", I suggest you prove it and quite wasting
our time.  I have every right to ask you to prove your *theory* as you do
to ask me to prove my bar works.  I have real world proof my bar does
work, you have nothing but your opinion.

People that spout their opinion like its fact are quite worthless to me,
honestly.  Try being a little more social and actually enticing a
discussion/debate some time.

--
Eric
www.vintagewatercooleds.com

1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
1981 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel -FOR SALE-
1990 Corrado TDI -FOR SALE-
1990 Fox Wagon
1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
1994 Jetta GL

Larry Fry said:
> I ask if anyone has proof that this device does what some claim it does.
> In response,  I'm asked why I just can't "believe".
> So I stated why I can't.
> Simple as that.
>
> Then, I'm challenged to build a better one.
> I can't, because I don't believe any add-on device will be of
> any...any....benefit.
> It will take making the original crossmember out of thicker material or a
> redesign of the front motor mount.
> That's the only thing that will stop the cracking.
> And we know this is impossible....the error was made nearly twenty years
> ago
> and we can't go back.
>
> We've had this discussion before.
> I explained in detail, back then, why I doubt the usefulness of this
> device.
> I'm not going into it again.
>
> Eric is satisfying a demand in an honest way.
> Good for him.
> Don't get so damn defensive, Eric, it's not your honor I am doubting.
> It's the usefulness of the device that so many want so desperately to
> believe in.
>
> Larry
> sandiego16v
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>>
>> Larry is entitled to his doubts.
>>
>> No one here has the money to *properly* test these bars, I am sure of
>> that!
>>
>> Most of us just have to rely on others experiences as to if it does what
>> its designed to do.  I merely responded to a demand...a *loud* demand at
>> that.
>>
>> I produce something that quite a few people have asked for for years,
>> and
>> I get your crappy skepicism, thanks buddy!  Do you think I am out to
>> profit on this?  If so, you are greatly mistaken, and probably don't
>> understand the depth of my dedication to this group.
>>
>> Anyone that has experienced catastrophic crossmember failure understands
>> why this bar was made, and why it has to help.
>>
>> I by no means think this is a CUREALL.    If it gets these cars to last
>> another 10 years without cracking, or holds existing cracks from
>> continuing...then my goal has been met.
>>
>> I more than welcome you to design something better.  The key is, the
>> average joe doesn't have a welder...so it has to be bolt on by the
>> average
>> monkey mechanic.  Oh, and make sure you actually can get it made in
>> decent
>> quantities too.  I'd more than welcome someone taking this project
>> over...step up to the plate Larry!
>>
>> --
>> Eric
>> www.vintagewatercooleds.com
>>
>> 1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
>> 1981 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel -FOR SALE-
>> 1990 Corrado TDI -FOR SALE-
>> 1990 Fox Wagon
>> 1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
>> 1994 Jetta GL
>>
>> Larry Fry said:
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>>>> why not just go on the notion that adding reinforcement to a flimsy
>>>> frame
>>>> member made of boxed steel simply must help to some degree?
>>>
>>> Because one mustn't assume the truth.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> sandiego16v
>>>
>>>
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