OK enough chit chat. I'm off to finish cleaning the mess and to remedy the situation. BTW, the only thing that was lost in this fiasco was the large piece of cardboard that I use to lay on while under the car. I can live with that. Stay tuned for the victory update... -- Mike '86 red 16v (Red 5) "The snozberries taste like snozberries!" "It's a trick. Get an axe."