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Automatic Car... How to solve a problem
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->-----Original Message-----
->From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
->[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Brian McGarvey
->Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:44 PM
->To: L F
->Cc: 'Scirocco List'; Patrick Bureau
->Subject: Re: Automatic Car... How to solve a problem
->
->
->Just so you know this is actually the solution the factory
->did for the "hot start" problem in A2's, I'm 90% sure. Ive
->seen it in a few.
->Brian
->
->
->On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, L F wrote:
->
->> Cool, Pat.
->> I love the thrill of victory.
->> Even someone else's.
->>
->> Larry
->> sandiego16v
->> ----- Original Message -----
->> From: Patrick Bureau
->> To: 'Scirocco List'
->> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:40 PM
->> Subject: Automatic Car... How to solve a problem
->>
->>
->> So yesterday, a frantic young 22 year old that borrow my
->wife's car for a
->> trip to Tulsa Oklahoma is calling me... " the car will
->not starrrrrrrt "
->> So after chatting with her, she tries it one more time
->and luckily enough it
->> does turn over and start , telling her to not turn it off
->until she gets
->> back to her place, which she does and her trip finishes
->without a problem.
->>
->> This morning... Put key in car... Nothing... Ni click,
->got lights and power
->> , 12.5v on the battery, but refuses to crank over, so I
->dolly its lazy arse
->> back to the farm, I stop by AutoZone that identified the
->battery after using
->> their gismo tester machine that load it, that the battery
->has more than
->> likely a bad cell... So the battery is marked 4 years
->ago, cant hurt, slap a
->> new battery in... Turn key... Nothing...
->>
->> So I grab the Bentley and test the ignition switch, well
->after the 4 simple
->> continuity test they tell me to do, conclusion.. Its not
->the ignition switch
->> the problem..
->>
->> So.. Since the "start my car systems" are simple.. And by
->using deduction, I
->> decided to go to the last obvious location to check, the
->starter... Easy
->> enough to check if it is itself or the solenoid still
->good (because anyone
->> that has an automatic KNOWS they are a bitch to take off
->and change!). Find
->> the starter harness, and VW has a nice little connection
->right there.. Wire
->> it to the battery... And the engine starts cranking at
->proper speed.
->> Conclusion # 3.. The starter is still good.
->>
->> My fear getting worse by the minute I run the fact in my
->head, the battery,
->> the switch the starter.. Was else could it be but the
->WIRING.. Arrrrrgggggh
->> I scream... The gremlins have gotten possession of my
->cabriolet.....
->>
->> This is the TIME for you guys still reading this epic
->story to realize when
->> all else fails in your step by step home
->troubleshooting.. Have a beer.. And
->> if smoke... Time to light up... Sit by the side of the
->car... And think....
->> Why do I do this to myself... Why get .. Such an old car
->with all the usual
->> problems they all get... And always at one point to become wiring
->> gremlins.....
->>
->> <insert pause as my VW local mechanic drops buy to give
->me back a borrow
->> fuel pump he needed to trouble shoot a client's of his
->cabriolet...>
->>
->> Jaime! Have a beer.... Thanks Pat, so what the problem
->with the cabby he
->> asks...<insert explanation written above>
->>
->> He smile and goes, do you have some wire and a 40a
->relay... Sure I reply and
->> fetch the stuff...
->>
->> Sipping my bear he builds a Starter solenoid relay, as he
->explains (and
->> people that have already done they euro light with relays
->will understand
->> this bit) The wiring is too old and the starter tries to
->draw too much
->> amperage on the skinny wire leading to and front the
->ignition switch,
->> usually the switch dies first (and I promptly tell him
->that the PO had just
->> changed it a few weeks ago),... So he built a relay,
->connected for power
->> directly to the battery, and used the ignition wire, and
->patched the relay
->> wires to it.. Fixed a little bracket with it.... And were
->done in 20 mins.
->>
->> He smiles... There all fixed..... No more problems, being
->skeptical, I pause
->> and have another beer and a smoke...(watching someone fix
->your car is
->> tiresome buisiness yanno?) He chuckles and looks at me..
->So you aint going
->> to start her up.....?
->>
->> I reach for the key... And "Half-Pint, as my wife calls
->it" turns right over
->> and starts...
->>
->> Cost.. Humm 6 beers... 1 hr of troubleshooting and 15
->mins of making a relay
->> for the starter.
->>
->> It WAS a good day in Dallas today....
->>
->> -
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