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What's the fastest can ever take your Scirocco? - more numbers

Now you can also paint a BIG yellow "M" on your front hood. You can also get
a Walmart logo on the roof...

Cheers.

Marc
'83 Scirocco
'97 A4

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Patrick Bureau [mailto:ats@longcoeur.com]
> Envoy? : lundi 8 mars 2004 20:02
> ? : 'Marc_Scirocco_Qu?bec'; 'scirocco'
> Objet : RE: What's the fastest can ever take your Scirocco? - more
> numbers
>
>
> Duct tape on my car, tya must got me confused with some nascar driver here
> buddy!
>
> Laughing !!!
>
>
> ---
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> See what I am selling today on eBay: http://tinyurl.com/22e5b
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Marc_Scirocco_Qu?bec
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:52 PM
> To: 'scirocco'
> Subject: RE: What's the fastest can ever take your Scirocco? -
> more numbers
>
> It is actually more an aproximation.
>
> You have a Kamei kit. Cd gets a bit lower with it, whatever the
> number might
> be. Play with the formula with your measured WHP, and estimated speed, and
> you might get closer to your actual Cd.
>
> Then you can take into the measurement the speedo error.
>
> It gives you an idea.
>
> Now you can plug the front gril with an aluminium plate. Get some
> duct tape
> around the headlight, and hood/fender seams, and where there is any gap on
> the frontal area, and your top speed will raise a bit.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Marc
> '83 Scirocco
> '97 A4
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Patrick Bureau [mailto:ats@longcoeur.com] Envoy? : lundi 8 mars
> > 2004 19:41 ? : 'Marc_Scirocco_Qu?bec'; 'scirocco'
> > Objet : RE: What's the fastest can ever take your Scirocco? - more
> > numbers
> >
> >
> > Marc,
> >
> > It works but I have 102.5 WHP and I can do over 130MPH :)
> >
> > ---
> > ATS - Patrick Bureau -  Web site :
> > http://ats.longcoeur.com]http://ats.longcoeur.com
> > AIM: texasscirocco - Yahoo: atsgtx - ICQ: 32918816 - MSN:
> > atsgtx@hotmail.com
> > See what I am selling today on eBay: http://tinyurl.com/22e5b
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of
> > Marc_Scirocco_Qu?bec
> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:56 PM
> > To: 'scirocco'
> > Subject: RE: What's the fastest can ever take your Scirocco? - more
> > numbers
> >
> > Here are some more numbers:
> > Don's kid's finding:
> > <<http://www.perry-lake.k12.oh.us/phs/Classdept/ScienceDept/Physic
> > s/ClassTop
> > ics/friction/car_topspeed.html>>
> > F = (0025) x Cd x A x V^2
> > P = (.0027) x F x V
> >
> > <<http://elf.sqush.net/car2.html>>
> > MKII Scirocco has an advertised Cd of 0.38 A = 18.3 square foot =
> > 1.7001256
> > square meter = 1.7
> >
> > <<http://www.performancetrends.com/PDFs/DRAMan4.pdf>>
> > page 33 "For a realistic Cd, add .03 to .05 to the advertised Cd."
> > Cd = 0.38 + 0.04
> >
> >
> > You mix both formulas (F and P):
> > P = (.0027) x ( (.0025) x Cd x A x V^2 ) x V
> >
> > P = 0.00000675 x Cd x A x V^3
> >
> > You plug in the numbers:
> > P = 0.00000675 x 0.42 x 18.3 x V^3
> >
> > P = 0.00000675 * 7.686 * V^3
> >
> > P = 0.0000518805 * V^3 where 0.0000518805 = ( 1 / 18275 )
> >
> > P = V^3 / 18275
> >
> > So for a speed of 124 MPH, you need:
> >
> > P = 104.33 (Wheel HP)
> >
> > Does it make sense?
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Marc
> > '83 Scirocco
> > '97 A4
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Don Walter [mailto:dswalterwi@earthlink.net] Envoy? : lundi 8
> > > mars 2004 17:33 ? : Marc_Scirocco_Qu?bec; Dan Bubb; Patrick Bureau;
> > > 'Drew MacPherson'; 'reptilis'
> > > Cc : 'scirocco'
> > > Objet : What's the fastest can ever take your Scirocco?
> > >
> > >
> > > I gave my 14 year old son the task of finding how to comute this and
> > > darned if he didn't find this for you:
> > >
> > > <http://www.perry-lake.k12.oh.us/phs/Classdept/ScienceDept/Physics
> > > /ClassTopics/friction/car_topspeed.html>
> > >
> > > It is an excellent web site on the topic.
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marc_Scirocco_Qu?bec <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
> > > Sent: Mar 7, 2004 9:09 AM
> > > To: Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>, Patrick Bureau
> <ats@longcoeur.com>,
> > > 	'Drew MacPherson' <drew@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>,
> > > 	'reptilis' <reptileis@comcast.net>
> > > Cc: 'scirocco' <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Subject: RE: what's the fastest you've ever taken your Scirocco?
> > >
> > > The specs for a MKII 8V are a cd of 0.38, and a frontal area of
> > > 18.3 square
> > > feet.
> > >
> > > Anybody knows the math to compute how much hp are needed to pull a
> > > Scirocco at, say 120 MPH?
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > > '83 Scirocco
> > > '97 A4
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]De la part de Dan Bubb
> > > > Envoy? : dimanche 7 mars 2004 11:56 ? : Patrick Bureau; 'Drew
> > > > MacPherson'; 'reptilis'
> > > > Cc : 'scirocco'
> > > > Objet : Re: what's the fastest you've ever taken your Scirocco?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I thought you had a 4K gearbox??
> > > > That would have a 3.94 final drive and 6600 RPM would net 129MPH.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Patrick Bureau" <ats@longcoeur.com>
> > > > To: "'Drew MacPherson'" <drew@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>; "'reptilis'"
> > > > <reptileis@comcast.net>
> > > > Cc: "'scirocco'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:31 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: what's the fastest you've ever taken your Scirocco?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Humm glad the system is back out,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tested my numbers...against the computer gear thing.
> > > > > Rememebr I recalled it sbeing 240KPH/150MPH @ 6600 RPM, well
> > > > seems that WAS
> > > > > a high guess.
> > > > >
> > > > > 205-50-15, 3.67 FD, .89 5th gear @ 6600 RPM = 138 MPH/223 KPH
> > > > > But at 7000 RPM I would be going 148MPH (my next goal)
> > > > >
> > > > > Do the digifiz is off by 10MPH over 130MPH... Ah who would of
> > > > guessed it!
> > > > >
> > > > > Note the same specs (205-50-15, 3.65FD, @ 6600RPM  but .75 5th
> > > > = 165 MPH..
> > > > > Hummm I do have that FN laying around on the 82.. MUAHAHAH
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
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> > > > > AIM: texasscirocco - Yahoo: atsgtx - ICQ: 32918816 - MSN:
> > > > atsgtx@hotmail.com
> > > > > See what I am selling today on eBay: http://tinyurl.com/22e5b
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Drew
> > > > > MacPherson
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:36 AM
> > > > > To: reptilis
> > > > > Cc: scirocco
> > > > > Subject: Re: what's the fastest you've ever taken your Scirocco?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps not a new speedo, but a new guesstimator is in order...
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI  A stock 4K is doing 108 mph on 175/70R13.  Even if you had
> > > > a 16" tire
> > > > > with a 25" rolling diameter you'd only be doing 119mph at 5700
> > > > > rpm.  A
> > > > > 215/40R16 has a rolling diameter of about 23.6"
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out www.scirocco.org/gears for assistance in calculating
> > > > speeds with
> > > > > given gear ratios/tire sizes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Drew
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, reptilis wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Since the mods, and pushing about 180 crank HP with a 4K
> > tranny, 16"
> > > > > > wheels, and all new suspension and steering components:
> > > > > > Ive had the needle of the speedo buried so deeply that it
> > > took longer
> > > > > > for it to come back to the point of registering 85mph than
> > > it does to
> > > > > > come come down from 85MPH to zero. In 5th gear, the car
> > was at about
> > > > > > 5700 rpm and still had power to continue acceleration.   I would
> > > > > > guesstimate that i was doing 150-160 easily.      On  a
> > > nice straight
> > > > > > stretch of I-5.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really need a new speedo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > 1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
> > > 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (under repair)
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