New rear stress bar

[ats at longcoeur.com (Patrick Bureau)]

Well for once Larry I think aside from agreeing with you about the auction
bar, (I had not noticed where it sat on the pillar and I agree)
I believe your speaking through your immensely large hat.

Let me explain.

Eurosport Front strut bars BOLT to each strut tower, it is not attached to
the shock/spring assembly itself. Its bolted on to the chassis.

For the lower front bar, I never though the single bar, (Neuspeed and K bar)
did much else than prevent the a-arm from parting opposite ways myself.
Another reason, why I bough the Eurosport sub race frame, if you ever looked
at it you will realize that it's a large item, bolts to the from a-arm point
then to the chassis at the rear bolt mount point at the sway part location.
Again bolted in 4 points to the chassis and each bolt point forms a full
square closed box, and each bolt point transverse diagonally to the other
side, a most efficient setup!.

I have a rear stress bar, and unlike, the one we were talking about (eBay
auction, and how you pointed out with good reasons why its not worth it.),
again my Eurosport rear stress bar, does not mount unto the shock assembly
at all, actually it U clamps around the top of the rear strut towers, to the
chassis,
And I can tell when driving it made a difference and I was skeptical at
first when I bought it, I realize quickly the difference it made in the
rear. Those make a difference, I have driven identical year car with same
setup on shock/springs, except one had all 3 stress bars and the other did
not, and the one that didn't, moved around a lot more (i.e.: rolling of the
body in a tight turn, instead of staying flat!)

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-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of L F
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:42 PM
To: Jeff Toomasson; ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: New rear stress bar

Since the rear stress bar bolts to the top of the rear shock, it does
nothing to keep the chassis from flexing.  The rear towers could still move
around the rubber-mounted suspension units.  
 In effect, the stress bar is rubber-mounted.....and a whole heck of a lot
of good THAT does.    This is a situation duplicated with all the rear
stress bars I've seen.

In addition, lateral cornering loads are all absorbed by the rear axle
mounting points....none of the loads go up through the two flexible shock
mountings (lower and upper) into the body. It's possible that vertical
stresses in that area can cause the towers to move side-to-side slightly,
put that wouldn't affect handling to any degree.  

Realistically, rear stress bars serve no mechanical function.
(looking at the designs of all the front stress bars and the way the A1's
are built, I have my doubts that any of the commercially-available fronts do
a heck of a lot either....)

Ergo; Scirocco suspension design doesn't result in rear shock towers moving
AND the normal bar wouldn't stop the movement even if it did occur.
Save yer money.

Larry

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jeff Toomasson
  To: ATS - Patrick Bureau ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: New rear stress bar


  he'd better come up with a better description than that if he wants to try
  to sell a supposed high performance part that no one/few have ever seen...
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: <ATS - Patrick Bureau>
  To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
  Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:33 AM
  Subject: New rear stress bar


  > Anyone seen these on the web, they look interesting considering the
shape
  > (looks to be triangular bar) and the price.
  >
  >
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2462969376>
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  > See what I am selling today on ebay: http://tinyurl.com/22e5b
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