Excuse the very rough photoshop work, but for the purpose of visualising... and because I'm bored... http://www.xgtgx.com/img/Scissorocoo.jpg (57K) -Grant- and another interesting image while i'm at it: http://www.xgtgx.com/img/Scirocco-web1.jpg - that one's pretty old though. I was working on a new version until i had a major hard drive crash about 3 weeks ago :(