got shocks?

[neptunonc at yahoo.com (Neptuno)]

Nothing that extreme but heck it is my car:
-http://absolutegti337.vwmafia.net/eephotos/040304gtg/images/sandypointgtg092.jpg

#2
http://absolutegti337.vwmafia.net/eephotos/040304gtg/images/sandypointgtg093.jpg

#3
http://absolutegti337.vwmafia.net/eephotos/040304gtg/images/sandypointgtg094.jpg

That is my little scirocco

Don Tony.

-- Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Better link!
> http://www.funksoulkitty.org/miscpics/autocross2.jpg
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> To: <tomc@satx.rr.com>; "Allyn"
> <amalventano@sc.rr.com>
> Cc: "Scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: got shocks?
> 
> 
> > If your inner rear tire is in the air then putting
> a bigger rear bar on the car will only lift the
> > rear tire higher in the air!
> > Once you've got a tire in the air adding roll
> stiffness to that end will do no good.
> > Putting a bigger front bar on would reduce overall
> roll. It may seem counterintuitive but a bigger
> > front bar will probably increase your cornering
> speed.
> > Normally a bigger front bar will increase
> understeer, but in the autocross environment where
> you've
> > already got a rear tire in the air putting a
> larger front bar will reduce overall roll and as a
> > result the front tires are more perpendicular to
> the road and will grip better. (at least that's
> > some of the consensus of the VWautocross yahoo
> group)
> > Normally I wouldn't consider poly bushings, but
> again, in this environment the stiffer bushings
> > would probably make a big contribution to limiting
> unwanted positive camber due to bushing
> > deflection.
> > Getting back to the shocks. I have Koni's (and
> damned old ones at that!) on my 84 with Eibach
> > springs and new Gabriels (which are supposed to be
> equivalent to Boge's) on my 87 with H & R
> > springs. There is absolutely no comparison in
> terms of stability and control between the two cars.
> > Where the 87 bobs and weaves and floats thru turns
> the 84 is just totally buttoned down.
> > I think in the autocross environment Konis or
> Bilstiens would make a huge difference although it
> > hasn't been my experience that they will
> necessarily keep your back tires on the ground.
> >
>
http://www.funksoulkitty.org/miscpics/autocross2_t.jpg
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tomc" <tomc@satx.rr.com>
> > To: "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>
> > Cc: "Scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: got shocks?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Al,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the response. So, a bigger beefier
> rear sway bar might make
> > > my car look less scarier on the course? And
> maybe get a few more tens
> > > off my times too? Heck, that's would be cheaper
> than new Koni's. Has
> > > anyone tried the rear sway bars from BSI racing
> or Shine racing?
> > >
> > > The spectators will be disappointed if I fix the
> rear wheel lift thing,
> > > seems they think it's neat.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Tom C
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 17:25, Allyn wrote:
> > > > Tom,
> > > > keep in mind that struts/shocks will not
> change steady state cornering roll.
> > > > the only way to correct that is with stiffer
> roll bushings (poly), stiffer
> > > > roll bars, and higher spring rates.
> > > > hth
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "tomc" <tomc@satx.rr.com>
> > > > To: "Scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:55 AM
> > > > Subject: got shocks?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hey all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I did my July autoX yesterday and one of the
> members took some action
> > > > > shots of my car. I posted the best one on my
> index page called got
> > > > > shocks. The rest are in the photo album
> under autoX. It looks a lot
> > > > > scarier than it felt. I guess I need to save
> up for some Koni's now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately the photo album I use does not
> work well with Netscape
> > > > > stuff, so Mozilla and Firefox won't view the
> autoX pictures. I'm looking
> > > > > for a new/better and free photo album.
> > > > >
> > > > > TomC
> > > > > '79 "The Project" Scirocco
> > > > > http://www.tom-c.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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