Shocks and springs...

[abatzis2 at hotmail.com (Michael Abatzis)]

cathy (and others),
i've got the h&r races/bilstein sp combo on my car.  i don't know that the 
ride is much worse than the sports. it handles fantastic, and on atlanta 
roads it was a good setup. on the 3rd world roads in new orleans, however, 
"firm" is an understatement. what kills me is the loss of suspension travel 
(you get this with the sports also though). i'll be getting rid of this 
setup in the spring in case anyone's interested. trying to decide what to 
replace with. i don't want to lower the car much, if at all. the combo of 
less suspension travel + distorted geometry doesn't make sense to me. cathy, 
how are the coilovers in this respect? one of the best setups i've used is 
the shine setup with no front sway (i know, i know). it really did handle 
great, very neutral. on the autox i think it probably performed nearly as 
well or better than my current setup. the lack of a front bar had a 
noticeable increase in roll though, which made street driving less fun. i'm 
thinking about going back to the shines, increasing the rear spring rate, 
and keeping my sway bar.


-Michael Abatzis
New Orleans!
1988 Scirocco 2L 16v RIP
1987 Scirocco 2L 16v...




>From: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@hotmail.com>
>To: ats@longcoeur.com, mit@lunartransmission.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: RE: Shocks and springs...
>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:40:47 +0000
>
>You may want to put on new strut bearings while you're in there, dollars to 
>donuts they're worn. Heck they get worn in about the first ten miles. If 
>you hear klunking when you hit a pothole, they're shot.
>
>Now I'm also in the final stages of suspension choices for Klaus (79 MkI), 
>mine's a different deal, it'll be used about the same as my 16V, often on 
>the 1/4 mile, some lapping and autocross, and the ever popular long hauls 
>to Cincy and such. So compromise/versatile are words that come to mind. I'm 
>pretty well sure that Koni Yellows will suit me, (I like the idea of easy 
>adjustability)  but what are suggestions for springs to go with them? I see 
>Potter has a sale on the H&R race springs, but will these kill me ride 
>wise? (My 16V has the H&R coilovers, and I love that ride, to give you an 
>idea, I don't mind "firmness", heh)
>The car currently sits so high I've actually got nice photos of TMBs Jetta 
>1 shot UNDER mine. So any amount of drop will not be an issue. (It likely 
>needs to go down a good 2")  It will end up with more engine than the 
>current 1.6 under the hood. So there's the parameters. Maybe a good 
>discussion of suspensions you've all tried and their virtues/ faults could 
>follow. Cathy
>
>
>>From: "Patrick Bureau" <ats@longcoeur.com>
>>To: "'miT'" <mit@lunartransmission.com>,"'Scirocco List'" 
>><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>Subject: RE: Shocks and springs...
>>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:12:45 -0600
>>
>>What is your current setup?
>>
>>I found that the h&R Sport with the Gabriel's VST make a nice Daily driver
>>combination on the 8v and 16v.
>>
>>I also discovered that the same H&R Sport with Beilstein SP is an
>>interesting bumpy ride.
>>
>>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
>>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of miT
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:14 AM
>>To: Scirocco List
>>Subject: Shocks and springs...
>>
>>I was wondering what everyone has tried out in the shocks and spring area.
>>Whenever I drive over a small crack/bump in the road the whole car feels
>>like as if I just ran into a brick wall. Is there anything I can do to get
>>rid of this, or at least minimize the impact feel to it?
>>I know that a spring kit isn't really going to help it but I was just
>>curious if others have experienced this also.
>>What else should I replace in the while ordering the suspension kit? I
>>really don't know much about this subject as you can plainly tell.
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