16V WOES ... HELP!!

[juliemac57 at hotmail.com (Julie Macfarlane)]

Its under the rear seat. Remove the seat pad and you will find a plate with 
3 screws. Remove the plate. Under that attached to the top of the tank is 
the transfer pump.
Undo the electrical wires to the pump and use a flat blade screw driver and 
hammer to remove the pump by moving it anti-clockwise.

lift and use vice grips to hold the tubes closed. remove and replace with 
the new one.

Have fun! (PS... smoking during this procedure not advised  :)


Julie Macfarlane
1981 MKI 2L 16v
Amsterdam NY





>From: Carlos Alves <alves@email.unc.edu>
>To: peter@thescirocco.com, peter <peter@thescirocco.com>
>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: RE: 16V WOES ... HELP!!
>Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 12:06:02 -0500
>
>I think you are definetley on to something. When I swapped out my fuel
>filter yesterday, the gas was cloudy and gray, which led me to believe
>it was rust in the tank.
>
>I would be interestedi n buying your old fuel distributor, let me know
>how much yo uwant for it and we can work something out.
>
>About the transfer pump, where can i get the proper clamps, and the
>short peice of fuel hose to replace the original one?
>
>Thanks a lot
>
>
>Quoting peter <peter@thescirocco.com>:
>
> > I think it's either the fuel distributor, or the transfer pump in
> > the
> > tank.
> >
> > The transfer pump is $40-80, comes with a new screen/pickup and
> > takes
> > about 10 minutes to change, providing you have the proper clamps, and
> > a
> > short piece of fuel hose to replace the original one.
> >
> > If that doesn't fix it, I'd try cleaning the bottom of the fuel
> > distributor, and/or swap in a used known good 16V fuel distributor.
> > I
> > have an extra one, e-mail me if you're interested...
> >
> > My '88 16V would intermittently cut off, and when I poured out the
> > fuel
> > of the fuel filter, the fuel was cloudy and gray, from the transfer
> > pump
> > trying to self destruct.
> >
> > HTH, and good luck!
> >
> > Peter
> > 302.832.8989
> > http://thescirocco.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alves
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:29 AM
> > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: 16V WOES ... HELP!!
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > This is my first posting on this message board. I am a student at
> > UNC
> > Chapel Hill who lives in Jersey, and i have an 87 16v with roughly
> > 113k on the odo. Up until about 2 weeks ago, I absolutely loved this
> > car, I bought it with 87k, and it generally served me very well for
> > the past 2 years, with only minimal repairs and breakdowns occuring
> > because either coolant hoses broke or because the thermostat went.
> >
> > When it comes to working on cars, I am generally a beginner, only
> > having done small things on various other cars. I am becoming
> > painfully aware, however, that owning a 16v necessitates doing most
> > of
> > the repair work yourself, or forking over a LOT of cash to the damn
> > vw
> > stelaership, Which brings me to my next point.
> >
> > 2 weeks ago, my car started sputtering and stalling at various
> > RPM's.
> > It would sputter and die down on the highway, for instance, and I'd
> > have to drop it down into 4th and let the cluth out, and the car
> > would
> > start back up. Then it would proceed to function normally.
> > Dumbfounded, I checked the car out and couldnt find anything wrong,
> > so
> > i took it to the VW dealer. They found some vacuum leaks on the car,
> > which they fixed, cleaned out some "gunk" on the throttle body, and
> > reset the fuel mixture, and said the problem was fixed. I drove the
> > car home, and while home, it commenced sputtering again. So I
> > resolved
> > to drive the car back down to school when the time came and try to
> > get
> > it fixed by an expert on the 16v cars that I know near my college.
> >
> > Sunday, I leave, and go to my brothers place. I start smelling gas,
> > open the hood, and see that the fuel filter is leaking a little
> > fuel ... so I resolve to change it. Swapped a new one in, no
> > leakage,
> > and the car seemed to have stopped the sputtering problem. So, I
> > leave, and roughly 30 miles later, my car breaks down, on the side
> > of
> > the highway. This time the problem seems different, almost as if the
> > car is running out of gas, where the engine just dies down and i
> > cooly
> > pull off.  THe gas gauge reads 1/4, but I am thinking it is rust in
> > the gas tank.
> >
> > My bro  comes, we put about 2 gallons of fuel in the car, and it
> > drives fine for the next 30 miles, to the VW dealer. 5 miles before,
> > it started dying down again, once again leading me to believe that
> > rust is the culprit, seeing as how with about 2 gallons, the car
> > would
> > be good to go for roughly 40 miles before rust concentration builds
> > up
> > causing the car to die down. I put 5 dollars of gass in, and drop
> > the
> > car off.
> >
> > Today the VW dealer calls me back. THe problems they found, as they
> > quoted, are as follows:
> >
> > Fuel distributor has a lot of carbon buildup. Needs to be cleaned.
> > Throttle body has carbon buildup. Needs cleaning.
> > O2 Sensor is sending error codes, possibly faulty..
> > Spark plug wires need to be replaced.
> > Distributor cap and rotor show signs of corrosion.
> >
> > And the grand total, $2500 for all of this work, and THEN they will
> > check the car out again to see if rust in the gas tank is the actual
> > culprit. Needless to say, I will NOT spend 2500 on a car I bought
> > for
> > 1500. My course of action is to try to get the car down to NC and do
> > most of the work myself in my free time.
> >
> > So, some questions are, is rust buildup in the sciroccos common? How
> > dfficult would it be for someone with a beginners spin on mechanics
> > to
> > do most of the work required by the dealer? I Would of course
> > purchase
> > the Bentley manual and consult it to the finest detail. Are those
> > parts expensive in it of themselves? Difficult to install?
> > >From your professional opininos, does it seem as if the dealer
> > quoted
> > problems are the actual culprit? IT seems as if the leaky fuel pump
> > fixed most of the sputtering problems, and the car only started
> > acting
> > up when the tank (in my opinion) neared empty and the rust
> > concentration build up.
> >
> > Any help you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated. In
> > your
> > opinions, does it seem as if all those "carbon" infested mechanical
> > parts are the reason the car is failing me?
> >
> > My guess is I will probably be consulting this list more frequently
> > as
> > I start to do the work on the car. I love the car, and am not
> > willing
> > to see it go without a mechanical fight. I just hope I can learn
> > enough about the car so that I can fix it properly. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
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