Possible to flare hard brake line?

[rocco16v at netzero.net (L F)]

Bubble flair?  This is the only place I've heard that term.
If: 
The cross section of a single flare (one side of the tube, open end facing south) is an   L  .
And the cross section of one side of the tube of a double flare, open end facing north, is a  P (sorta).

Then: What does a bubble flare look like?

Larry

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave Ewing 
  To: Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org 
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 2:51 AM
  Subject: RE: Possible to flare hard brake line?


  I am sorry I don't know all the answers to your questions since I just
  bought the kit from Mac or Matco, can't remember now.  But, I think the size
  of the bit or piece for the bubble flare is a 4mm.  What that means is that
  it is a 4mm line.  I am not absolutely sure on this just going by memory as
  to what size the bit was for the bubble flare tool.  You don't need to
  double flare it, only bubble flare it.  What this creates is a sort of
  smooth perfect flare (rounded on the end) so I am assuming that is where it
  gets it's name, bubble flare.  The fittings are easily accessible at
  wrecking yards or your old brake parts you have laying around.  Take a line
  cutting tool and cut it smooth so you can slide it off.  If you use a pair
  of dikes or wire cutters you won't be able to slide the fitting off.  You
  MAY find a cut to length steel line with fittings on it at your local parts
  store but don't expect it to be exactly the right length.  Usually when you
  see a line that has loops in it they used a pre-cut and flared line and it
  was too long.  The best but more expensive way to do the job is to get the
  pieces and buy the flare kit.  Then you can make any brake line on your car
  and make it the correct length.  The size of the line is very common to most
  import cars as is the fitting size.  They may know what you need if you tell
  them the application, then again.....  HTH!

  Dave

  -----Original Message-----
  From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
  [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Ryan H
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:51 PM
  To: Dave Ewing
  Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  Subject: Re: Possible to flare hard brake line?


  OK, bubble flare - check.  So does it need to be a double flare tool?  And
  what size are the brake lines?  Finally, where would I find the correct
  sized couplings (the nut/thread thingy) for the ends?
  Thanks all!

  >
  > From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net>
  > Date: 2004/01/02 Fri AM 05:26:06 EST
  > To: "Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
  > Subject: RE: Possible to flare hard brake line?
  >
  > Yes, you can do this but you will need a bubble flare kit.  The regular
  > flare kits you get at Harbor freight won't work unless they say "bubble
  > flare" on the case.  I got mine from Matco for about $70.  HTH!
  >
  > Dave
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
  > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Ryan H
  > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 3:10 PM
  > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  > Subject: Possible to flare hard brake line?
  >
  >
  > I'm thinking about cutting the hard line right below the nut (can't get it
  > off).  Would it be possible just to put a new nut on the cut line, then
  > flare the end and just bend the line an extra 1/2" to make up for the
  > cut-off length?
  > I haven't been able to remove any of these to see how it is even flared.
  > Any help appreciated!
  > Thanks.
  >
  >
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