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Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...
erm, no rags in any of the rockers i've cut...
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie Macfarlane" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>
To: <mr.utility@highstream.net>; <amalventano@sc.rr.com>;
<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...
> Sounds like a good idea to me, but what about moisture retention?
> What about the rocker panels as well as they are filled with a rag like
> material. Most of that would have to be removed prior to filling.
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> Julie Macfarlane
> 1981 MKI 2L 16v
> Amsterdam NY
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> >From: "David Utley" <mr.utility@highstream.net>
> >Reply-To: mr.utility@highstream.net
> >To: "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Subject: RE: Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...
> >Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:01:55 -0600
> >
> >Comments/concerns within...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Allyn [mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com]
> >Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 2:38 PM
> >To: mr.utility@highstream.net; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >Subject: Re: Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...
> >
> >
> >1. whats a good entry point (you would have to drill somewhere)
> >I think they do allude to drilling in some cases... I personally am not
> >against it, esp. if I think I will get as much of a gain as I will. I
> >would
> >only drill on the inside of the car however, and seal appropriately when
> >finished...
> >
> >2. how do you get the foam distributed within all areas of the rocker?
> >
> >A very good question, especially once I see the cutaways that you
> >offered...
> >I would say at this point you are a better expert than I am here! :) I
do
> >have a Rabbit body I could sacrifice for this, and perhaps do a write-up
> >about it... I might do well to go buy a Sawzall and go to town... It
would
> >be a bit of a pity, a good straight body like that.... What do you
think,
> >Allyn? With your sectioning the Sciroccos, and me doing this Rabbit,
could
> >be come up with a plan for the best way to apply this stuff?
> >I will call them tomorrow and ask if they have any direct experience with
> >any particular import, and offer up our concerns for the multiple layers
> >stopping flow... Perhaps they will be able to offer some ideas as
well...
> >Let me know what you think, and I will report what the foam folks say...
> >
> >Regards,
> >David
> >
> >
> >also, heres another idea, check out this pic of the front engine bay:
>
>http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/0-allyn/project/images/030121-225551-Z10.jp
g
> >there are a few plugs which would allow entry points without drilling
> >there is also the area within the firewall:
>
>http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/0-allyn/project/images/020328-125608-Z10.jp
g
> >(plug visible in this case)
> >theres also some decent candidates in the rear:
> >http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/incoming/images/031122-130148-Z10.jpg
> >http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/incoming/images/031122-135553-Z10.jpg
> >http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/incoming/images/031122-135611-Z10.jpg
> >especially the last one. that entire beam that wraps along the wheel well
> >is
> >totally hollow, as well as the beam that runs across the bottom of the
> >hatch, forward of the wheel wells. the part thats missing in this pic:
>
>http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/0-allyn/project/images/030130-204021-Z10.jp
g
> >you can see the outline of where it started just forward of the base of
the
> >shock tower.
> >
> >anyhow, this may be more creative uses of extra foam than just throwing
it
> >into large vacant areas within the fenders/body.
> >hth
> >Al
> >
> >Al
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Utley" <mr.utility@highstream.net>
> >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 3:16 PM
> >Subject: Increase the rigidity/quiet of your A1...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hello Scirocco Listers,
> > > It is I, your favorite pest... :)
> > >
> > > I mentioned on another post some time back about using expanding
foam
> >in
> > > the cavities of our cars to increase rigidity and lessen unwanted
> > > road/engine noise, and a few replied that you were interested... I
> >aplogize
> > > to those that responded, as I have lost your names... Please reply
once
> > > more, and I will do a better job of keeping up with it in the
future...
> >I
> > > also apologize for taking this long to post the link to the Vortex
post
> >I
> > > made some time back discussing it, as well as the article from Sport
> >Compact
> > > Car discussing it further... I have been all over this, and I plan to
> >buy
> > > some for at least three cars... It then occurred to me that some of
you
> >may
> > > be interested in this as well, so here is a direct inquiry for all of
> >you
> > > intersted in participating in a group buy, please let me know...
> > >
> > > The article in Sport Compact Car is as follows...
> > >
> > > http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0006scc_proj300zx
> > >
> > > Look near the end for the mention of the foam... I recommend reading
> >the
> > > whole articl though, as you will see that they intend to double the
> > > horsepower of that 300ZX. They thought about a roll cage, but decided
> >that
> > > in that car, it was not feasible for a road-going two door. This is
> >what
> > > piqued my interest, as I am 6'4", can really cannot manga losing more
> > > interior space, I need all that I have left and then some... That,
and
> >the
> > > fact that this is cheaper than a roll cage, AND it has sound dampening
> > > abilities too? Seems like a win-win situation...
> > >
> > > The manufacturer is as follows...
> > >
> > > http://www.itwfoamseal.com/
> > >
> > > As far as we can tell, it would cost us about 150.00 or so including
> > > shipping to do each car, and that is if we went crazy and did all open
> > > cavities (as I intend to do
> > >
> > > If you are interested, or even if you are not and you are bored and
> >need
> > > something to read, (;-)) I invite you to look over the forwarded
> >material
> > > and see what you think... While I am no expert, I will be happy to
> >field
> >as
> > > many questions as I can...
> > >
> > > Let me know what you all think...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > David Utley
> > >
> > >
> > >
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