just snug them to 20lbs and torque it in the car.but 180? where did the extra half turn come from? I just did the head gasket on my diesel and the process was 20lbs, 40lbs, 50lbs, warm up the car then retorque to 50lbs. 180 degrees more would have been more like 80lbs of torque. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!