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snow tire rec.
hakkapellitta's cost more than my car... :(
--- "Mark F." <mk1mark@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:30:20 -0800 (PST), Dan Smith
> <sad_rocc@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > We finally got the Dunolp Graspic DS-2 onto Lacy's
> 00 Jetta and man do they kick ass! Granted, we had
> been driving around on tires with zero tread for
> awhile, so we're not used to what decent tires feel
> like. We haven't gotten a big snow yet, but in the
> snowy/icy spots on the road and in snow packed
> driveways these tires dominate. They're extremely
> grippy on even dry pavement and a relatively quiet.
> The ride is comfortable and because they are a size
> narrower than stock, they make turning a breeze. The
> best part is they were only $50 each from tirerack!
> A quick search will reveal that these are the tires
> of choice for SCCA ice racers who are not allowed
> studs, so you know they do as well on ice as Dunlop
> claims they do. If you need tires and have been
> putting it off, go check them out!
>
>
>
> >From my research the Graspic is a pile of poo...
> Crappy dry handling,
> and not even that good of a winter tire...
>
> I visited Frank and Dan Sprongl's shop (multiple
> Canadian rally
> champs) last week and he highly recommended the
> Yokohama IceGuard 10.
> It's got full depth sipes, and is a very soft
> compound. Dry handling
> isn't supposed to be that great either, but as with
> any dedicated
> winter tire dry handling is compromised...
>
> I'm going to be buying Nokian WR tires for my Audi.
> They're an "all
> weather" tire - NOT all season, as they're rated for
> severe winter
> duty (have the snowflake symbol)... As I do a lot
> of highway driving
> (in warmer climates), I needed a tire that wouldn't
> degrade too
> quickly, and is half decently "sporty" in the dry.
> Plus with quattro,
> I can get away with slightly less snow grip than an
> all-out winter
> tire and still make it though... We get a decent
> amount of snow where
> I live (Niagara Falls area), but not as much as most
> of Canada, so a
> hardcore winter tire is a bit overkill on an awd
> vehicle here...
>
> The Michelin X-ice looks to be a decent tire, but
> the sipes only run a
> few mm into the tread, so once the sipes are gone
> the tire will
> suck... Same goes for the Cambodian Tire Nordic
> Icetrac, or any of
> the "budget" winter tires...
>
> I used Michelin Arctic Alpin (replaced by the X-ice)
> tires last year,
> and they were a good compromise tire - not a real
> deep snow tire, but
> great on ice, and still had all-season-like dry
> handling... The
> compound is a bit hard for my liking though...
>
> Nokian Hakka's are probably the best serious snow
> tire (bought a set
> for my Mom this year), but they're a bit pricey...
>
> Anyone else have some input?
>
> Mark.
> 75
> 80 S
> 81 Caddy
> 90 Audi Coupe Quattro - 10vt
>
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