reverse issue with an 8v tranny--Grind prevention

[pilotlars at yahoo.com (Lars Bruchmann)]

... like buttah!!!  hahaha, yes, when decelerating,
and not downshifting, i never use the clutch, no need
to, like you said, when the torque comes off the
gears, they just slide out into neutral, i've never
been bold enough to engage one without the clutch
though.. maybe when this one shows signs of wearing
out i'll try that. 
--- Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> 
> > It's going between gears when you are moving.  You
> push the clutch in, go to neutral, let the
> clutch out and rev-match . > for the next gear, then
> put the clutch in, pick the gear and let the
> clutch out.
> 
> I'm lazy. I don't double clutch since the 020
> synchros seem up to the job. But I do rev match
> routinely (heel and toe) especially on downshifts.
> That's were the smoothness comes from. Screw the
> synchros!
> 
> When I was young I had a Fiat 850 with a totally
> worn out gearbox. The synchros were long gone.
> Great opportunity to learn how to shift by double
> clutching or learn how to shift without the clutch
> (which has come in handy a couple times with the ole
> Scirocco!) since the gearbox was total trash
> anyway.
> No need to double clutch on the upshift especially
> if you have a lightened flywheel since the gear
> speeds will match anyway if you time the shift
> right.
> This reminds me of a friend of mine that always
> cruised in too low a gear. Any opportunity where he
> had to let off the gas a little I'd pull it out of
> gear (once the load is off the gear you can pull
> it into neutral very easily) , he'd see that I'd
> done that and let off the gas and as soon as he did
> that the revs would drop, and you could pull it
> right into the next gear. Pissed him off every time,
> but it also worked evertime without a hint of a
> grind!
> Downshifting, I think rev matching is adequate with
> our cars unless your synchros are  worn out ;^)
> As far as getting it into reverse, I don't think I'd
> call that double clutching. You put it in first
> or second to stop the gears rotating. Letting the
> clutch out before putting it into reverse just
> gets them rotating again so the non-synchro reverse
> can grind.
> 
> my .02
> Dan
> 
> 
> > Done quickly and properly it makes for very smooth
> shifts that just slip in like butter.  It was
> necessary on the very old > cars/trucks, but we're
> talking 30's and 40's, because they didn't have
> syncros.  I do it on any standard I drive not
> >  because it's necessary but because it makes
> things much smoother and saves the syncros.  It
> makes
> by far the biggest > difference on downshifts.
> 
> John K. Gates
> --
> Rome, NY
> '97 Jetta GLX - daily driver
> '85 Scirocco Flash Silver, waiting for my new
> house/shop for a complete
> teardown/buildup sometime soon...
> 
> 
> 
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