Camshaft ID help ( now vintage performance)

[jdbubb at ix.netcom.com (Dan Bubb)]

Hmmm..... rev happy?
Got a friend with 2.0 8V, ITB's, ported head and a cam that's bigger than a TT 306.
Says it pulls to 8000 RPM! Not revs to 8000, but PULLS to 8000!
Now that's rev happy!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "16volt" <16volt@scirocco16v.com>
To: "'Eric S'" <scirocco@vintagewatercooleds.com>; <Kyscirocco@aol.com>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:02 AM
Subject: RE: Camshaft ID help ( now vintage performance)


> Man...my 2001cc motor must suck!
> 
> But believe it or no the saltyweasel has some decent info here. Just keep in
> mind that the 1.6 when having the throttle wired open with no oil tends to
> blow the waterpump off the front of the block when the number 1 rod lets go.
> 
> 
> Shannon
> www.scirocco16v.com
> Now with vitamin T!
>  
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Eric S
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:33 PM
> To: Kyscirocco@aol.com
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: Camshaft ID help ( now vintage performance)
> 
> 
> The 1.7 is one of the least regarded of the 8v engines ever
> produced...complete lack of peppyness and rather unresponsive to mods. 
> The 1.5s and 1.6s seemed so rev happy, and very enjoyable to drive. 
> You'll find ALOT more choices available to you in perfomance bottom ends
> and things as well in the 1.6 crowd, cause of the ITC racers (and you
> won't find hardcore ITC racers with 1.7s, even though they could use them,
> they "downgrade" to the 1.6).
> 
> Probably best explained by the motors strokes: both were 79.5 bore, but
> the 1.6 was a 80 stroke and the 1.7 an 86.4.  Longer stroke = less piston
> velocity and a more torquey, less rev happy motor.
> 
> -- 
> Eric
> www.vintagewatercooleds.com
> 
> "I was run off of the scirocco list..." -Dave Ewing
> "Isn't it enough that you were part of my decision to leave the scirocco
> list, do you have to haunt me here as well?" -Dave Ewing
> 
> Kyscirocco@aol.com said:
> > Thanks. Please explain though. From some of the things I've read it seems
> > like the 1.7 would be better.
> > Matt
> > 1981 Mars Red
> > Louisville, KY
> > In a message dated 8/16/04 10:42:50 PM, scirocco@vintagewatercooleds.com
> > writes:
> >
> >
> >> ike your ideas...cool part to come by!
> >>
> >> However, dump the 1.7 boat anchor...you'll be much happier building a
> >> 1.6...trust me.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Eric
> >> www.vintagewatercooleds.com
> >>
> >> "I was run off of the scirocco list..." -Dave Ewing
> >> "Isn't it enough that you were part of my decision to leave the scirocco
> >> list, do you have to haunt me here as well?" -Dave Ewing
> >>
> >> Kyscirocco@aol.com said:
> >> > OK. after Talking with some knowledgeable folks, doing a bit of
> >> research
> >> > and
> >> > a few measurements.   It appears I have a drake custom grind with 105
> >> lobe
> >> > center and .455 lift. It looks as though this came has never been run.
> >> So
> >> > I would
> >> > say this was nice score!   It has got me thinking about doing sort of
> >> a
> >> > vintage performance build up in my 81. Instead of doing one of the
> >> more
> >> > modern
> >> > swaps 16v, aba, 3a I'm thinking of doing a built 1.7L. Big valve 1.6
> >> head.
> >> > Maybe
> >> > even heron head. Build it the way they used to. I know this will cost
> >> more
> >> > and
> >> > not give as much performance.   But I enjoy being different (hell I
> >> have
> >> > an
> >> > mk1 Scirocco) and finding cool old performance parts. Anyone that has
> >> any
> >> > info
> >> > on old performance tips. Like old catalogs or articles from the 80's
> >> that
> >> > you
> >> > would be willing to photocopy. Please contact me. Thanks
> >> > Matt
> >> > 1981 Mars Red
> >> > Louisville, KY
> >> > In a message dated 8/14/04 9:10:08 PM, sailingfc@dslextreme.com
> >> writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I looked through my Drake catalogs and can't find any reference to
> >> those
> >> >> numbers.  Drake's part number system was XX-YY-ZZZ. For cams parts,
> >> XX
> >> >> was
> >> >> 20.  The YY was 01(new) or 02(reground).  And the ZZZ stood for the
> >> >> lift,
> >> >> but Drake never made a 0.455" lift cam, that I can tell.
> >> >>
> >> >> -Dick-
> >> >> 78 Scirocco
> >> >> Original Owner
> >> >> 95 Passat
> >> >> Second Owner
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
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