cross-flow vs g60

[scirocco81 at vwmail.net (Eric S)]

Dan,

Crossflow heads use Motronic (true Motronic, not CIS-E Motronic), which already has a fuel rail, etc.  I don't think it would be hard at all to get digi1 working on a x-flow.

As for the TB...not sure actually...G60s (digi1) just need a WOT switch and a Idle switch like CIS-E 16vs.

You cannot use the G60 intake mani on a crossflow.  You would have had to ditch the G60 exhaust mani anyway...since its not setup for turbo (but it would fit the x-flow head).  

If you get a x-flow head, make sure you in the intake mani, TB and fuel rail with it.

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79 VW Iltis
81 Scirocco S (*TDI* swap and complete restoration in holding pattern)
81 Rabbit Truck 2.0 16v Motronic
83 Scirocco Wolfsburg
91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow 8v swap and mechanical rebuild in progress)



--- Dan Smith <sad_rocc@yahoo.com> wrote:
Really? Cool, contact me off list to sell me one. Are x-flow heads digi 1? Can I use a g60 intake and exhaust mani without problems? Does the TB of a x-flow have all the sensors that a g60 has? Can I swap them if not? I've spent like a month learning about the g60 head and now I feel obligated to do the same with the x-flow.
 
Dan

Drew MacPherson <drew@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca> wrote:

Well, as I said in my original post, I have no shortage of Turbo Diesel 
manifolds. They're not considered "rare" in the Great White North - I 
probably have about 8 of them.

I could buy an entire turbo diesel parts car for the price of a 16V 
turbo manifold.

Drew

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, 16volt wrote:

> Well you can buy or have made a turbo manifold for a 16V for less than
> or the same as what it would cost you find a somewhat rare 8V Turbo
> diesel manifold. 
> 
> Time is money and if you want to dredge through junkyards and ebay so be
> it. 
> 
> Shannon
> www.scirocco16v.com
> Schrick 276's...its a good thing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drew MacPherson [mailto:drew@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:08 PM
> To: 16volt
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: RE: cross-flow vs g60
> 
> 
> I can't speak for everyone else, but personally I'd go the 8V route
> simply
> because you can't bolt a turbo diesel exhaust manifold to a 16V head,
> and
> I'm "keep it under budget" Drew.
> 
> YMMV, but mine's pretty consistently 55mpg imp... :)
> 
> Drew
> 
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, 16volt wrote:
> 
> > Considering there isn't a single swinging dick on the Kotex that isn't
> > doing a crossflow turbo I think you will be in "good" company. There
> are
> > more than a couple companies out there making "kits" for the xflo.
> > 
> > My question is why do you want hobble yourself with an 8V? 
> > 
> > Shannon
> > www.scirocco16v.com
> > Schrick 276's...its a good thing.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Drew MacPherson
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:16 PM
> > To: Dan Smith
> > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: Re: cross-flow vs g60
> > 
> > 
> > A cross-flow is consider a nice head for a turbo because the intake is
> > on 
> > the front of the motor (like a 16V) which a) keeps the intake air
> > cooler, 
> > and b) keeps the intake manifold the hell out of the way of the
> exhaust 
> > manifold/turbo and associated plumbing.
> > 
> > The x-flow is a great head for those who are doing "cheap-ass" turbo
> > swaps 
> > using turbo-diesel manifolds, because the TD manifold can be used
> > without 
> > modification when the intake is on the front of the engine.
> > 
> > I've consider a cheap-ass turbo swap (as I have no shortage of the
> tubro
> > 
> > bits) but I lack the x-flow head. Oh well, some day.
> > 
> > Drew
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Dan Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > Saltyweasel has mentioned that a cross flow head may be a better way
> > to go for my turbo motor than a g60 head. However, he failed to
> > elaborate. Stock head vs stock head, is the x-flow better for boost?
> > > 
> > > Dan
> > > 
> > > 
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