[TECH] 3a dyno in and I am disappointed, sorta...

[pellom at yorku.ca (Sal Guzzo)]

No but it surely ain't as fast as it should be...I've riden in others.

Sal Guzzo

- Fear is your only god.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
To: <pellom@yorku.ca>
Cc: "_Scirocco Mailing List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: [TECH] 3a dyno in and I am disappointed, sorta...


> got a dyno of yours ?
> 
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> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of pellom@yorku.ca
> =>Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:14 PM
> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
> =>Cc: _Scirocco Mailing List
> =>Subject: Re: [TECH] 3a dyno in and I am disappointed, sorta...
> =>
> =>
> =>Patrick,
> =>
> =>As you already know, i have the exact same setup in my Rabbit.  I 
> =>mean exact 
> =>(even to the flywheel).
> =>
> =>However, I've also noticed that the car isn't as fast as I 
> =>thought that it 
> =>would be.  I know that I was suppose to do some tuning on the 
> =>weekend but that 
> =>didn't transpire.
> =>
> =>With respect your numbers, you must remember that the factory 
> =>numbers are based 
> =>at the crank...the dyno you ran was measured at the wheels.  So I 
> =>would say 
> =>that you're dyno numbers are an improvement BUT not a significant 
> =>improvement.  
> =>I've been trying to think about how to improve them BUT I've gots 
> =>a coupla 
> =>exhaust leaks right now that prevent me from doing anything further.
> =>
> =>Maybe someone else can point us in the right direction....I hear 
> =>that a 272 cam 
> =>will work wonders in this sorta setup.
> =>
> =>HTH
> =>
> =>Sal
> =>67 Peugeot 404
> =>81 Scirocco 16V
> =>84 Vwabbit
> =>00 Mazda B3000
> =>
> =>
> =>Quoting ATS - Patrick Bureau <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>:
> =>
> =>> alright after all my work here is the results I got for my 8v....
> =>> 
> =>> Best run 97.9HP @ 5200 RPM with 118.9 ft torque @ 3100 RPM, 
> =>dwell set at 60'
> =>> and timing at 14' idle, 28' @ 3000 rpm.
> =>> Worst paladin7run 93.9HP @5200 RPM with 116.3FT torque @ 2800 
> =>RPM, dwell set
> =>> at 45' and timing at 8' idle, 23' @ 3000 rpm.
> =>> 
> =>> Now I will list my mods to the engine so we can compare apples 
> =>with apples
> =>> and maybe someone can post me their setup and I can figure out 
> =>where I am
> =>> loosing/needing to concentrate my next series of mods/effort to 
> =>gain more
> =>> out of this 8v.
> =>> 
> =>> 3a block, oem specs pistons, rebuild 7K miles ago
> =>> JH head with no mods on it
> =>> 4-2 manifold, 2-3 eurosport downpipe, to high-flow cat to 2" 
> =>eurosport cat
> =>> back.
> =>> G grind Cam
> =>> 8lbs flywheel
> =>> scirocco 16v knock sensor and box (cis-lambda + knock)
> =>> 16v air box intake
> =>> OEM scirocco 85 fuel delivery pump and injectors.
> =>> 
> =>> Things to consider;
> =>> 
> =>> JH engine = 75HP(NET) @ 5500 RPM with 100 ft Torque @ 3000 RPM
> =>> 3a engine = 108 (NET) @ 5300 RPM with 121 ft Torque @ 3200 RPM
> =>> 
> =>> dyno link ->
> =>> <http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/dyno/dyno%5Fatsgtx01%2EJPG>
> =>> 
> =>> So basically I am in between them two engines... any thoughts ? 
> =>and if you
> =>> have a dyno image I would like to have them please...(with 
> =>mods) so I know
> =>> where to seek improvements
> =>> 
> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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