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[TECH] 3a dyno in and I am disappointed, sorta...



Patrick,

As you already know, i have the exact same setup in my Rabbit.  I mean exact 
(even to the flywheel).

However, I've also noticed that the car isn't as fast as I thought that it 
would be.  I know that I was suppose to do some tuning on the weekend but that 
didn't transpire.

With respect your numbers, you must remember that the factory numbers are based 
at the crank...the dyno you ran was measured at the wheels.  So I would say 
that you're dyno numbers are an improvement BUT not a significant improvement.  
I've been trying to think about how to improve them BUT I've gots a coupla 
exhaust leaks right now that prevent me from doing anything further.

Maybe someone else can point us in the right direction....I hear that a 272 cam 
will work wonders in this sorta setup.

HTH

Sal
67 Peugeot 404
81 Scirocco 16V
84 Vwabbit
00 Mazda B3000


Quoting ATS - Patrick Bureau <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>:

> alright after all my work here is the results I got for my 8v....
> 
> Best run 97.9HP @ 5200 RPM with 118.9 ft torque @ 3100 RPM, dwell set at 60'
> and timing at 14' idle, 28' @ 3000 rpm.
> Worst paladin7run 93.9HP @5200 RPM with 116.3FT torque @ 2800 RPM, dwell set
> at 45' and timing at 8' idle, 23' @ 3000 rpm.
> 
> Now I will list my mods to the engine so we can compare apples with apples
> and maybe someone can post me their setup and I can figure out where I am
> loosing/needing to concentrate my next series of mods/effort to gain more
> out of this 8v.
> 
> 3a block, oem specs pistons, rebuild 7K miles ago
> JH head with no mods on it
> 4-2 manifold, 2-3 eurosport downpipe, to high-flow cat to 2" eurosport cat
> back.
> G grind Cam
> 8lbs flywheel
> scirocco 16v knock sensor and box (cis-lambda + knock)
> 16v air box intake
> OEM scirocco 85 fuel delivery pump and injectors.
> 
> Things to consider;
> 
> JH engine = 75HP(NET) @ 5500 RPM with 100 ft Torque @ 3000 RPM
> 3a engine = 108 (NET) @ 5300 RPM with 121 ft Torque @ 3200 RPM
> 
> dyno link ->
> <http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/dyno/dyno%5Fatsgtx01%2EJPG>
> 
> So basically I am in between them two engines... any thoughts ? and if you
> have a dyno image I would like to have them please...(with mods) so I know
> where to seek improvements
> 
> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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