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[audio] subs & boxes





Hi guys,
I'm afraid I disagree, I have a full Infinity 3-way component set on my
rear deck, the 6x9's are mounted into the parcel shelf, the 4" Mid and EMIT
tweeter are mounted into the stock 4x6 mounts.
I built a rear shelf that hinges in the middle, this is a neat styling
touch and also supports the weight of the speakers. I have also gone as far
as to box the 6x9's to protect them from the air movement the Sub creates
and allow them to punch more.
I'm not trying to start an argument, It's just my opinion. (also i agree
that the standard Rocco rear shelf is inadequate to mount speakers into.)

Pics here:-
http://adamg.250free.com/Rocco_Pics/1cs_kit.jpg
http://adamg.250free.com/Rocco_Pics/Boot3.jpg

The install is still a work in progress (that's why cables are everywhere!)
However, it sounds excellent so far with the rear speakers mounted how they
are.


Cheers,
AdamG
'92 Scala 1.8i 8v
http://www.geocities.com/little_log



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There ya have it, the perfect second opinion!

Honestly Toby's completely right, speakers on the hatch aren't the best
idea.  I was going with it since rocco guys usually have their minds set on
something and its best to just go with it.   Annnnyways - defenately a
spare
tire box or just a simple box in the trunk is a better choice.   However,
with just 2 5.25" woofers, you're not going to hear very much.  You could
build a really nice fiberglass box in the left side behind the rear wheel
well.  You could do all kinds of things - but I understand if you just want
them on the hatch lid.  Lots of people want them on the hatch lid.  Despite
what toby says about ya if you can justify the consequenses he conveniently
outlined and it makes you happy - go for it!

;) toby

-some loose change

Vince

> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of T. Reed
> Sent: November 28, 2003 12:03 AM
> To: Foxx (in a box)
> Cc: Scirocco List
> Subject: Re: [audio] subs & boxes
>
>
> Don't make 'yet another' hatch lid with speakers in it. Many a nice
> decklid has been ruined by some moron with a saw installing 6x9s. Even if
> you're planning on building a new lid first, consider the problems with
> such a setup:
>
> - your speakers will be very visible to the world, particularly thieves.
> - you'll have to make an abnormally thick lid (=uneven surface with the
>   carpet side panels) because the speakers add weight and if you don't
the
>   lid will flex and sag a lot.
> - the extra thick lid will weight a lot more and the rubber straps that
>   hold the lid will break so you will have to replace them with chains or
>   cables that rattle and make noise.
> - you will have to run wiring to the lid, which means you can't take it
>   out. Or, you can only take it out if you seperate disconnects. This is
a
>   pain no matter what.. and makes it much harder to remove the lid to put
>   large cargo in the trunk.
> - if you take the lid out to transfer large cargo or whatever then you
>   will have no speakers there until you put it back in.
> - if you just drop them in the lid without a box they will sound like
>   crap, but if you build a box on the underside of the lid it will add
>   weight to the lid and make your trunk smaller
> - the car looks extraordinarily goofy and non-stock with the two side
>   speakers, plus two speakers in the rear lid.
> - if your trunk is open when its raining then the speaker cones will get
>   wet and the grilles may rust.
> - etc etc etc
>
> Installing speakers in the decklid is a choice along the same lines as
> lowering a car by cutting springs, using armor-all on the dash, or
> installing nitrous instead of 'legitimately' building a quicker engine.
It
> is a bad idea, made in bad taste looking only at the short term and will
> in quickly lead to problems or damage that reduces the value of the car.
>
> Do yourself and any future owners of your car a favor and build a box,
run
> new wiring and do a clean install. I would suggest for subs as small as
> yours that you build a triangular box that takes the diagonal formed by
> the rear seatback and turns it in the a vertical, with the subs firing to
> the rear. Speakers that small don't need very many cubic feet and this
> would be a very compact arrangement that would take away almost no trunk
> space, be easily removable, out of sight and still sound good.
>
> I have something similar in my car, but it is more of an isosceles
> triangle with a flat peak than a right triangle. I had to sacrifice
> some cargo space to get the cubic feet necessary for my larger subs.
>
> My 2 cents, flame away.
>
> -Toby
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Foxx (in a box) wrote:
>
> >    i managed to pick up a pair of 5.5" bose subs from a porsche box
that
> > were going to be thrown away (the box was bad and it was covered under
> > warranty = good by subs). at any rate, i'm planning on building a
> > special hatch lid for them and thought they should probably be included
> > in a box. is there any special formula for box making? they've got
their
> > own little cool ports that i can use. info would be appreciated. thanx.
> >
> > --
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> >
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