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Megasquirt tuning
Dan,
Was this Andrew's bunny? Sounds like his setup. I can't wait to
see it in action.
Ed
At 01:59 PM 11/4/2003 -0500, Dan Bubb wrote:
>Just spent Saturday tuning a 2.0L 8V Rabbit GTI with Eurospec head, 280
>cam, TT race headers, 50mm ITB's and Megasquirt.
>
>I guess the best way to put this is, it was alot more difficult to tune
>this fairly radical engine than it was to tune an ABA with cam and exhaust.
>
>We started off using a 486 laptop. A 486 can run the Megasquirt software,
>but it's so slow it's hard to see where you are when you're tuning on the
>road and everything is bouncing around. Also, the screen needs to be at
>least 800 X 600 to see the tuning screens and an active (TFT) screen is
>going to help alot. We switched over to my relatively new laptop after one
>short run. You can pick up a killer laptop (for this application) on ebay
>for less than $200. It's worth it to save the aggravation.
>
>Check for ignition trigger stability by watching the RPM display on the
>Realtime display before attempting to drive with or tune MS. If you don't
>have an accurate trigger MS doesn't know if it's fueling for 900 RPM or
>5000 RPM due to spikes. Some people have been able to pull the signal
>straight off the coil, but it appears on VW's that this will give
>problems. If you intend to use one of the MS ignition derivatives the best
>bet is to pick up the hall signal directly in conjunction with a pullup
>resistor (1K ohm between the hall signal line and switched 12V). If you're
>using stock or KS ignition you can pick up the signal off of pin 6 or 7 on
>the ignition module. This is one of those items you need to get right
>before you can proceed.
>
>If you're running ITBs or perhaps if you just have a really wild cam,
>you're going to see the MAP signal jump around quite a bit even at high
>engine speeds. It appears easy to fix this by putting a volume (old style
>inline fuel filter) in the vacuum line to the MS. You may also need a
>restriction in the line. A 0.031" mig welder tip has been suggested. I
>would highly recommend adding these if you need to before starting tuning.
>With a jumpy signal you're tuning more VE map points at once and since
>some positions on the VE map have pretty steep gradients it makes for less
>effective or accurate tuning.
>
>When I was tuning the ABA I felt pretty good about tuning using a narrow
>band O2 sensor. With the wild ass 2.0 w/ITBs it seemed less effective.
>Maybe it was that the VE map was so far off to start with. In any event
>the WOT tuning looked good at .8-.9V, but after installing the WB-O2 it
>looked too lean. So, here I guess that most of the tuning can be done with
>a NB-O2, but when you get to WOT you should have a WB-O2 or plan on
>hitting the dyno early in your MS installation if you have a fairly
>radical engine.
>
>One other thing to look out for is if you should change to a different TB
>or ITBs make sure your KS ignition switches are operating correctly.
>Without the idle switch closing your base timing will be way off and the
>ignition response coming off idle will be to retard the ignition instead
>of advance it. This caused a really bad stumble moving off from a stop.
>So, make sure all the other systems are operating correctly before you try
>to tune MS.
>
>Last, once you get some tuning under your belt and are getting into the
>WOT tuning make sure you keep an eye on your injector duty cycle. No sense
>tuning WOT VE entries when the injectors are maxed out!
>
>Overall this particular tuning experience was only mildly satisfying
>considering the expectations which were awfully damned high. The KS switch
>issue (which was not even thought of until the next morning!) hurt power
>and caused some really dramatic drivability issues!
>
>None of this dampens my enthusiasm for Megasquirt. It just points out
>there are things that need to be taken care of before you get serious
>about tuning.
>
>Dan
>
>
>
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