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[Tech] Alt charging light probs after MFA diesel install
- Subject: [Tech] Alt charging light probs after MFA diesel install
- From: drew at scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca (Drew MacPherson)
- Date: Mon May 26 10:43:21 2003
As if I didn't have enough to do, I decided to reinstall MFA in the 84
Wolfsburg. I'd removed it when I installed the A2 TD instrument cluster,
and find myself really missing the trip/time functions, along with the
outdoor temp sensor. Fuel mileage is NA for the time being, but I have
some ideas on that...
I took a donor cluster (from an 85 or 86 GTI probably) and modified the A2
tach to fit (required drilling two new holes in the faceplate and using
the small adapter piece from the gas tach.) I had to wire in a newer
style MFA stalk switch, as the 84 had the old style MFA where the memory
selctor switch is integral with the cluster, but that was pretty
straightforward stuff.
The problem I'm having is that the alt no longer self-excites. This was
pretty much instantaneous with the old instrument cluster, however now I
have to blip the foot feed to get the light to go out (and the tach to
start working, as it operates on the W+ terminal of the alternator.)
I have pored over the wiring diagrams and the printed circuits for the
diesel and gas clusters and can see no differences in the exciter circuit.
The D+ terminal on the alternator is wired to T7a-5 on the cluster (blue
wire) - this is common for both clusters. There's a resistor inline
between terminal 15 (switched 12V) circuit on the cluster (61 ohm IIRC)
and the LED, then in the wiring diagram there appears to be an additional
semiconductor (not sure if it's a diode or a resistor) parallel to this
circuit.
Does anyone have any experience with troubleshooting ALT exciter circuit
problems inside the cluster? One theory I have is that the second
semiconductor's value is different on the diesel clusters VS the gas
cluster - although the only reasoning I could account for this is that the
diesel's rpm's are typically lower at startup than the gas rpm's, There's
no difference in the alternator (other than the presence of a W+ terminal
in some cases.) Does anyone know what the mystery semiconductor is/what
its value is? I need to pull the cluster back out and try again to locate
it (tracing this printed circuit foil gives me a headache!)
Lastly, I seem to recall running across a picture on the web of a printed
circuit that someone had colourized in photshop to make following the
traces easier - does anyone have a link to this?
Thanks,
Drew
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