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City Lights wiring help!

Subject: City Lights wiring help!
From: ralexander03@snet.net (Rick Alexander)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 18:10:35 -0400
References: <20030507213800.29771.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com>
I got it, I think...

I think you are telling us that the headlights are grounded at the ground
terminal of the relay (switched leg or switch leg?). Try moving this to a
real ground as in engine/transmission or body/battery. You might be
experiencing a bleed through the relay. Besides the relay need only act on
the positive side. Or as I discovered on my daughter's Chrysler, the
negative side. Either way it will work but not for both positive and
negative.

Oh boy, now I'm confused.

Rick Alexander

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Hausler" <mk1scirocco@yahoo.com>
To: "scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: City Lights wiring help!


> OK OK--
>
> way too much into this.
>
> My lights are and have been relayed for years now- the
> Euro light i just got have two connections (ignore the
> city lights for now)- one is the H1 bulb (positive)
> and the other is the actual body of the headlight-
> thus the negative from my relayed connection connects
> to the back of the light housing or body and the
> positive goes to the H1 bulb connection. Thus when my
> city light is pluged into the socket it is grounded by
> the connection to the actual light- thus when i try to
> tap into the parking lights the connection is grounded
> thru the headlight relay harness- thus my problem with
> the connection.
>
> thanks
>
> mark
>
>
> --- ATS - Patrick Bureau <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> > okay...
> >
> > I have a question, why ground all headlights to your
> > housing ? I mean I
> > guess its electrically possible to do it that way,
> > but I would like to know
> > the reason of this? since the closest ground
> > connection is at the
> > transmission side engine mount, (where the battery
> > actually is grounded to
> > the chassis), while the electrical ground is right
> > there, and the wire mesh
> > runs to the battery in less than 2 feet Driver side
> > (passenger side the wire
> > is longer but the closest ground to engine would be
> > passenger engine mount
> > anyways thru chassis electrical ground), IN theory
> > using the chassis this
> > way would actually make the resistance path higher
> > (due to shear amount of
> > metal it must go through to close the loop. I know I
> > am talking theoretical
> > here. but I am curious how your headlights are
> > performing. Using the
> > electrical ground wires already in place should be
> > sufficiently efficient to
> > permit to use the wires and therefore not causing a
> > possible "loop" that may
> > (or may not) be the cause of your problem.
> >
> > As for city lights, there are two model of plugs I
> > have witness both types
> > (spit connector and slot type internal connectors)
> > being used on a rocco and
> > both had dual connections (+ and - ) , if your only
> > has one, then your
> > choices are indeed limited. How are your normal
> > headlights connected thru
> > the chassis ground as well? or as normally
> > prescribed by designers?
> >
> >
> >
> > ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
> >
> >
> > =>-----Original Message-----
> > =>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> > =>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of
> > Mark Hausler
> > =>Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:01 AM
> > =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco list
> > =>Subject: RE: City Lights wiring help!
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>Patrick-
> > =>
> > =>thanks for the tip- BUT my whole euro light
> > housing is
> > =>the ground- there is only one connection to the
> > city
> > =>light-
> > =>
> > =>I might end up using a relay to get the signal- or
> > do
> > =>as Jonathan Shisler suggested and have it wired
> > with a
> > =>toggle switch-
> > =>
> > =>mark
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>--- ATS - Patrick Bureau <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
> > =>wrote:
> > =>> Mark,
> > =>>
> > =>> ahem.. run the two wires of the city light
> > socket to
> > =>> your corner lights
> > =>> (both wires, not grounding on the chassi the
> > groudn
> > =>> wires of the city light,
> > =>> I think you are creating a "additional" ground
> > that
> > =>> actually is shorting out
> > =>> the electrcal circuit.
> > =>>
> > =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
> > =>>
> > =>>
> > =>> =>-----Original Message-----
> > =>> =>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> > =>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On
> > Behalf Of
> > =>> Mark Hausler
> > =>> =>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 10:25 PM
> > =>> =>To: scirocco list
> > =>> =>Subject: City Lights wiring help!
> > =>> =>
> > =>> =>
> > =>> =>OK- I should know this- expecially since i am
> > =>> =>currently sobered up from the weekend.
> > =>> =>
> > =>> =>I got Euro headlights with city lights in
> > them.
> > =>> The
> > =>> =>headlight is grounded and the postive to the
> > =>> headlight
> > =>> =>plug into the main headlight bulb. That works
> > =>> fine.
> > =>> =>The city light is also grounded by the
> > headlight
> > =>> unit
> > =>> =>and if i try to hook up a lead from the
> > parking
> > =>> light
> > =>> =>the damn thing is always on- even wit hthe car
> > =>> off.
> > =>> =>The parking light are grounded i would guess
> > at
> > =>> the
> > =>> =>switch or someting and , and...
> > =>> =>
> > =>> =>I left my Bently at Jason's pad- so I cant
> > look
> > =>> there-
> > =>> =>(drinkin' , whatda you talkin' about drinkin')
> > =>> =>
> > =>> =>can some one help- Do i need to isolate the
> > city
> > =>> light
> > =>> =>from the headlight unit?
> > =>> =>
> > =>> =>
> > =>> =>
> > =>> =>=====
> > =>> =>mark hausler
> > =>> =>'81 scirocco s
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