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al calls dirk
dirk says 'you want me to send you WHAT!?!?!'
heheh
Al
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rick Kellner=20
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: interesting coolant stuff - VW related write up
I had a feeling that it was going to head down this route after =
reading about North American water and European water. Will we now need =
"Euro Water" for our cars. lol.
Rick K.
-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org =
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Robbie Cotner
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:07 PM
To: Rick Kellner
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: interesting coolant stuff - VW related write up
=20
From what I've read, perhaps we should be more worried about what kind =
of water we use(hard/soft/distilled) rather than antifreeze.=20
-Rob=20
Rick Kellner <rfkellner@snet.net> wrote:=20
The site below has some more articles on VW, Audi, Porsche, BMW, etc =
coolants. It also has a description of the purpose of each additive.
=20
=20
http://www.cycoactive.com/Urabus/urabus_cooling2.html
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org =
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of L F
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:27 PM
To: Allyn; Shawn c Meze
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: interesting coolant stuff
=20
Hmmm. WaterWetter by Redline.
Documentation that WaterWetter is great stuff.
By Redline.
=20
Larry
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Allyn=20
To: rocco16v@netzero.net ; Shawn c Meze=20
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: interesting coolant stuff
=20
docs to back this up:
http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn c Meze" <skerocdriver@juno.com>
To: <rocco16v@netzero.net>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: interesting coolant stuff
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:56:50 -0800 "L F" <rocco16v@netzero.net> =
writes:
>
>
> > The only way to prove it one way or the other is to put a
> > thermocouple on the head itself while you use WW for a run and
> > without WW for an identical run.
> > (until then, I hear something hissing....)
> > Larry
>
>
> Ive done this and actually saw a drop in temps of 5-10 degrees =
in places
> on the head. 5 degree drop in hose temps.
> Dunno how exactly or why it works, just know it seemingly does. =
(I know
> there's some sort of surface tension removal device in the magic =
potion.
> Just dont know the chemical compounds that makes it work.)
>
>
> Shawn M=E9ze
> 86' Jetta GLi 8V 88' Corvette -AS- #30 2002 SDR Solo2 =
Champion
> Scirocco" 84' Scirocco 8V 82' Scirocco RIP 80' Scirocco S 79' =
"Project
> FSP
> The Fastest, Quickest, Cleanest and best looking Scirocco(s) in =
all of
> San Diego!
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>al calls dirk</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>dirk says 'you want me to send you=20
WHAT!?!?!'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>heheh</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Al</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Drfkellner@snet.net href=3D"mailto:rfkellner@snet.net";>Rick =
Kellner</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 26, 2003 =
7:52=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: interesting =
coolant stuff -=20
VW related write up</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I had a =
feeling that=20
it was going to head down this route after reading about North =
American water=20
and European water.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Will we now=20
need =93Euro Water=94 for our cars=85 <SPAN class=3DSpellE><SPAN=20
class=3DGramE>lol</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3DGramE>.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rick=20
K.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.o=
rg</A>=20
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">On=20
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Robbie Cotner<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date =
Year=3D"2003"=20
Day=3D"26" Month=3D"3"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Wednesday, March 26,=20
2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
Minute=3D"7" Hour=3D"19"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">7:07=20
PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Rick Kellner<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: interesting =
coolant stuff -=20
VW related write up</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From what I've read, perhaps we should be =
more worried=20
about what kind of water we use(hard/soft/distilled) rather than =
antifreeze.=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-Rob <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <B><I><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Rick Kellner=20
<rfkellner@snet.net></SPAN></I></B> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">The=20
site below has some more articles on VW, Audi, Porsche, BMW, etc=20
coolants.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It also has =
a=20
description of the purpose of each =
additive.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">http://www.cycoactive.com/Urabus/urabus_cooling2.html<o:p></o:p></=
SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] =
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>L =
F<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> <st1:date Year=3D"2003" =
Day=3D"25"=20
Month=3D"3">Tuesday, March 25, 2003</st1:date> <st1:time =
Minute=3D"27"=20
Hour=3D"21">9:27 PM<BR></st1:time><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Allyn; Shawn c =
Meze<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> =
scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: interesting =
coolant=20
stuff</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hmmm. WaterWetter by=20
Redline.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Documentation that =
WaterWetter=20
is great stuff.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">By=20
Redline.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
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Arial">Larry</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
title=3Damalventano@sc.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com";>Allyn</A>=20
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face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
title=3Drocco16v@netzero.net=20
href=3D"mailto:rocco16v@netzero.net";>rocco16v@netzero.net</A> ; <A =
title=3Dskerocdriver@juno.com =
href=3D"mailto:skerocdriver@juno.com";>Shawn c=20
Meze</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
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2003</st1:date> <st1:time Minute=3D"20" Hour=3D"10">10:20=20
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interesting coolant stuff<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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up:<BR><A=20
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oil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm</A><BR>Al<BR><BR>-----=20
Original Message -----<BR>From: "Shawn c Meze" <<A=20
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R>Sent:=20
<st1:date Year=3D"2003" Day=3D"24" Month=3D"3">Monday, March 24, =
2003</st1:date>=20
<st1:time Minute=3D"10" Hour=3D"22">10:10 =
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interesting coolant stuff<BR><BR><BR>><BR>><BR>> On =
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Year=3D"2003" Day=3D"24" Month=3D"3">Mon, 24 Mar 2003</st1:date> =
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Minute=3D"56" Hour=3D"17">17:56:50</st1:time> -0800 "L F" <<A=20
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writes:<BR>><BR>><BR>> > The only way to prove it one =
way or=20
the other is to put a<BR>> > thermocouple on the head itself =
while=20
you use WW for a run and<BR>> > without WW for an identical=20
run.<BR>> > (until then, I hear something =
hissing....)<BR>> >=20
Larry<BR>><BR>><BR>> Ive done this and actually saw a =
drop in=20
temps of 5-10 degrees in places<BR>> on the head. 5 degree drop =
in hose=20
temps.<BR>> Dunno how exactly or why it works, just know it =
seemingly=20
does. (I know<BR>> there's some sort of surface tension removal =
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in the magic potion.<BR>> Just dont know the chemical compounds =
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makes it work.)<BR>><BR>><BR>> Shawn M=E9ze<BR>> 86' =
Jetta GLi=20
8V 88' Corvette -AS- #30 2002 SDR Solo2 =
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Scirocco" 84' Scirocco 8V 82' Scirocco RIP 80' Scirocco S 79'=20
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