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Subject: [Re: 1.8t engine setup pictures]
From: losinit at usa.net (Cathy Boyko)
Date: Tue Jun 24 03:43:59 2003
I'd guess the TDI swap is nearly as bad as the 1.8T, if not worse. It's DBW
and you'd need all the electronics, you'd still need to fab air charge hoses,
mount up an intercooler and so on, plus good performance diesel guys are
harder to find than 1.8T tuners  (trust me on that one). Not to mention
reinforcing for that nearly 200 ft/lbs a chipped one would put down, and so
on. Just my 2 cents. (Which is not worth that). And even the old NA 1.6 diesel
engines hold their value well, can't imagine the asking price on a complete
1.9TDI would be cheaper than a 1.8T. 
Cathy (my "detuned" TDI came already installed...)

"Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@attbi.com> wrote:
> So your Dad has all the tools in his greenhouse to do the swap (welders and
> such) but you can't do engine work yourself???  Overhauling your own motor
> will be nothing compared to fabbing all the parts to do your own 1.8T swap.
> 
> In my opinion, and this is no slam on anyone with 1.8T swaps out there, is
> that the 1.8T should only be done if you are a professional tech, are
really
> good at fabbing stuff and have gobs of different tools at your disposal or
> you don't want to get dirty and have gobs of money.  Nothing wrong with any
> of these situations but if you don't fall in those three categories, there
> are a lot better things you can do with your time and money.  How about
> turboing a 1.8 or 2.0L 8v with a crossflow head?  throw on a SDS system and
> you could be pulling down over 200hp, or do up an all motor engine in a
> lighter car?  For that matter, throw a TDI into your scirocco!!
> 
> Dave
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>
> To: <MK1Scirocco16v@attbi.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:43 PM
> Subject: Re: 1.8t engine setup pictures
> 
> 
> > Remember this is canadian prices. I have asked what it would cost for a
> big
> > engine. The guy said around 7 - 8k, and I would get probebly 200bhp. Then
> I
> > was thinking about turboing my engine (I can't do engine work myself :(
or
> I
> > would have done this). I talked to a couple specialty places, they
> > recommended that I go 1.8t, you just get more for your money. They could
> > have just been after my money though :P .
> >
> > This is what I have learned talking to people. Not trying to say im right
> or
> > anything. Thats what I have delt with. Maybe I should go look at more
> > places?? talk to more people?
> >
> >
> > >From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@attbi.com>
> > >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >Subject: Re: 1.8t engine setup pictures
> > >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:24:10 -0700
> > >
> > >I guess I just don't understand why you would want to spend $6K on a
1.8T
> > >(you'll end up spending a lot more than that I bet!!!) when you could
> have
> > >a
> > >nice high compression 2.0L 16v that will crank out similar HP for about
> > >half
> > >the money and half the headache.  I know I'm fishing for hate mail but I
> > >just don't get it.  The 1.8T is a nice motor and all and with a chip can
> be
> > >pretty very nice but man, if you want to spend gobs of money, get some
> > >pistons and turbo a 2.0L 16v!  If your budget is $6k, it would be VERY
> > >doable with about $2k or more left!
> > >
> > >Just my opinion!!
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>
> > >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:23 PM
> > >Subject: Re: 1.8t engine setup pictures
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yea thats what I was thinking, doing the upgrades right away. The
> thing
> > >is
> > > > my car has been off the road for more then 3 months now, my 16v needs
> a
> > > > complete rebuild, also I need to get it back on the road because its
> the
> > > > only car I have, and my parents are getting mad. I was going to get
my
> > > > engine done up, but the local mechanic chickened out and told me to
> take
> > >my
> > > > engine back. So now I have a choice spend $3000 canadian on my engine
> > > > rebuild. Or I would rather save that money and spend twice that much
> on
> > >a
> > > > 1.8t swap. I am hoping to get the swap done by the end of the summer
> if
> > >I
> > > > can get a engine soon. I don't mind spending extra money on upgrades
> > >here
> > > > and there. As long as my parents are happy that I have a car again.
> > > >
> > > > Since you mentioned guages, what kind you recommend, that would look
> > >nice
> > > > and a good guages??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for all your help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>
> > > > >To: "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>, <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: 1.8t engine setup pictures
> > > > >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:52:09 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >Honestly I would wait til you have the more money to do it all at
> once.
> > > > >Otherwise you will have to redo a bunch of work in the lines of
turbo
> > >and
> > > > >intercooler plumbing. Doing it piece by piece is also more of an
> > >annoyance
> > > > >and a steady drain on your cash supply vs just one big headache and
a
> > > > >sudden
> > > > >trip to the poor house!
> > > > >
> > > > >Take your time, hunt up a nice turbo and intercooler, and the much
> > >needed
> > > > >quaife. Investing in the gauges you should run and a boost
controller
> > >will
> > > > >help out also. It would also be a good choice to pull the engine
> apart
> > >and
> > > > >replace the rings/etc and upgrade the head now since they are out of
> a
> > >car
> > > > >now.
> > > > >
> > > > >Also work out a plan on how you plan on upgrading the ECU, are you
> > >going
> > >to
> > > > >run a chip, or run standalone? The size turbo you opt to go with
will
> > >help
> > > > >you decide on that.
> > > > >
> > > > >Josh Able
> > > > >www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
> > > > >----------------------------------------
> > > > >Lemmy 1992:
> > > > >I tell you we are doomed my friends
> > > > >Our time is come, our time is come
> > > > >We live within a charnel house
> > > > >Rotten to the core
> > > > >We glorify lust, greed & pain
> > > > >We drown our hope in poison rain
> > > > >We point the finger, shift the blame
> > > > >Ambition makes us whores
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>
> > > > >To: <mkii@nycap.rr.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > >Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:38 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: 1.8t engine setup pictures
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Because of money contraints, everything is stock. The engine is a
> > >AEB
> > > > >1.8t,
> > > > > > the tranny is a 020 till I get more money for somthing better. I
> am
> > > > >going
> > > > > > bigger turbo, intercooler, ECU upgrades in the future. No idea
> what
> > >else
> > > > >I
> > > > > > could do to the engine to make it better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>
> > > > > > >To: "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>,
<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: 1.8t engine setup pictures
> > > > > > >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:30:58 -0400
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >what engine are you putting in? any plans on tranny? are you
> > >keeping
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >stock turbo?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >come on man, details!! :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Josh Able
> > > > > > >www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
> > > > > > >----------------------------------------
> > > > > > >Lemmy 1992:
> > > > > > >I tell you we are doomed my friends
> > > > > > >Our time is come, our time is come
> > > > > > >We live within a charnel house
> > > > > > >Rotten to the core
> > > > > > >We glorify lust, greed & pain
> > > > > > >We drown our hope in poison rain
> > > > > > >We point the finger, shift the blame
> > > > > > >Ambition makes us whores
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > > > >Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:16 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: 1.8t engine setup pictures
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can anyone send me some picture of their 1.8t in their
> scirocco.
> > >I
> > > > >am
> > > > > > >going
> > > > > > > > to put one in and need some good pictures showing how it is
> > >done,
> > > > >Turbo
> > > > > > > > hookup, plumbing, etc.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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