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strange turbo pic



Oh.     Yeah. 
 I keep getting the blue and the green mixed up...

Larry
sandiego16v
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 16volt 
  To: 'Jason' ; 'L F' ; 'Scirocco List' 
  Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:54 PM
  Subject: RE: strange turbo pic


  WTF are you talking about...ughh. 

  Of course I didn't write that, Larry is just off his meds. Hey Larry,
  it's the blue pill to stay in the matrix.

  Shannon 
  You're Face Here 


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jason [mailto:jason@scirocco.org] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:53 AM
  To: L F; 16volt; 'Scirocco List'
  Subject: Re: strange turbo pic

  Larry,
           Good questions, but Shannon didn't write that, he lifted it
  from 
  the message board from whence the pic came.  The guy who wrote it is
  from 
  the company making them...

  Shannon wouldn't do something so botch, would you Shannon?  :)



  At 12:11 AM 6/12/2003, L F wrote:
  >Very interesting.  Only a coupla' statements that I will comment on;
  >1) a long, steel tube is definitely NOT an "efficient" intercooler. Not

  >sufficient thermal conductivity, not enough airflow tucked up as it is,

  >and not enough surface area to make up for the first two.  Have you
  taken 
  >air temps in that tube at the turbo and at the engine?
  >
  >2) lag may not be a problem in an automatic-transmissioned car at the
  drag 
  >strip where you can power-brake, but, as the Meze alluded to, in a
  manual 
  >car on the street it would seem to be...uh, less tolerable.  The
  'design' 
  >that allows hardly any lag? (and how much is "hardly any"?), what are
  the 
  >design aspects of which you speak?
  >
  >3)Where is Orem?  (Utah?)  I gotta' hand it to you guys for actually 
  >building something so outlandish that it is cool....if for nothing else

  >than for its shock value.  My hat is off to ya'.
  >
  >   Maybe next year we'll see Porsche placing turbos up under the front 
  > bumpers of their cars, eh?
  >
  >Larry
  >sandiego16v
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: 16volt
  >   To: 'Scirocco List'
  >   Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:18 PM
  >   Subject: RE: strange turbo pic
  >
  >
  >   Prototype is black '93 Z28 with purple flames on front.  Sounds like
  >   alot of you have seen or heard of the car.  Car was at UVSC carshow
  >   along with a few of our trucks.  Turbo mounts in rear on all our
  >   vehicles which raises some eyebrows and always draws in a few
  sceptics.
  >   Our system works real well and has several benefits that come from
  >   putting the turbo that far back.  First is that this kit installs in
  >   about 2 hours and anybody can put it on without hacking up your
  ride.
  >   Second is that our turbo temps are about 500 F cooler than those on
  >   underhood applications and that means less heat put into the air
  charge
  >   and lower underhood temps.  Plumbing charge to the front provides a
  very
  >   efficient intercooler without the typical pressure drop accross
  >   conventional intercoolers,  Won't go into the rest right now.
  Prototype
  >   did pick up 14 mph in quarter mile and car ran 13.0 at this
  elevation at
  >   111 mph with moderate 7 psi on street tires w/ 2.73 gears and
  automatic
  >   (car is totally stock other than our system).  Engineer from Garrett
  >   came up last week to check out our systems and was very impressed
  with
  >   all aspects of the kits.  Said our Camaro was one of the fastest
  cars
  >   he'd ridden in.  Everyone is concerned about turbo lag with turbo so
  far
  >   back.  Not the case, our system is designed to operate with turbo in
  >   this position and has hardly any lag.  Will break the tires loose at
  >   about 40 mph.  Have car set up to run 10 psi w/ water injection at
  the
  >   flip of a switch.  Did dip into 12's but mostly just spins tires
  real
  >   bad.  Just got some drag radials and ordering set of 3.73's w/
  converter
  >   and shift kit.  Car should hit 11's easy. Anyone interested is
  welcome
  >   to come by the shop.  We are in Orem.
  >   Shannon
  >   You're Face Here
  >
  >
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
  >   [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of
  >   joshhignight@techography.net
  >   Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:42 PM
  >   To: Scirocco List
  >   Subject: RE: strange turbo pic
  >
  >   Odd idea, here's where things originate it seems...
  >
  >
  http://www.ufba.org/forum/index.php?board=16;action=display;threadid=347
  >   6
  >
  >
  >   Looks ok to me (not the greatest, but ok), but I don't claim to know
  >   much about turbos.
  >
  >
  >   Joshua
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >   Original Message -----------------------
  >   Okay, somebody explain this...
  >   <http://home.attbi.com/~dindoit/pics/TurboLT1a.jpg>
  >   --
  >   Scott F. Williams
  >   NJ Scirocco nut
  >   '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
  >   Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
  >   Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
  >   ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."
  >
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