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strange turbo pic
Very interesting. Only a coupla' statements that I will comment on;
1) a long, steel tube is definitely NOT an "efficient" intercooler. Not sufficient thermal conductivity, not enough airflow tucked up as it is, and not enough surface area to make up for the first two. Have you taken air temps in that tube at the turbo and at the engine?
2) lag may not be a problem in an automatic-transmissioned car at the drag strip where you can power-brake, but, as the Meze alluded to, in a manual car on the street it would seem to be...uh, less tolerable. The 'design' that allows hardly any lag? (and how much is "hardly any"?), what are the design aspects of which you speak?
3)Where is Orem? (Utah?) I gotta' hand it to you guys for actually building something so outlandish that it is cool....if for nothing else than for its shock value. My hat is off to ya'.
Maybe next year we'll see Porsche placing turbos up under the front bumpers of their cars, eh?
Larry
sandiego16v
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From: 16volt
To: 'Scirocco List'
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: RE: strange turbo pic
Prototype is black '93 Z28 with purple flames on front. Sounds like
alot of you have seen or heard of the car. Car was at UVSC carshow
along with a few of our trucks. Turbo mounts in rear on all our
vehicles which raises some eyebrows and always draws in a few sceptics.
Our system works real well and has several benefits that come from
putting the turbo that far back. First is that this kit installs in
about 2 hours and anybody can put it on without hacking up your ride.
Second is that our turbo temps are about 500 F cooler than those on
underhood applications and that means less heat put into the air charge
and lower underhood temps. Plumbing charge to the front provides a very
efficient intercooler without the typical pressure drop accross
conventional intercoolers, Won't go into the rest right now. Prototype
did pick up 14 mph in quarter mile and car ran 13.0 at this elevation at
111 mph with moderate 7 psi on street tires w/ 2.73 gears and automatic
(car is totally stock other than our system). Engineer from Garrett
came up last week to check out our systems and was very impressed with
all aspects of the kits. Said our Camaro was one of the fastest cars
he'd ridden in. Everyone is concerned about turbo lag with turbo so far
back. Not the case, our system is designed to operate with turbo in
this position and has hardly any lag. Will break the tires loose at
about 40 mph. Have car set up to run 10 psi w/ water injection at the
flip of a switch. Did dip into 12's but mostly just spins tires real
bad. Just got some drag radials and ordering set of 3.73's w/ converter
and shift kit. Car should hit 11's easy. Anyone interested is welcome
to come by the shop. We are in Orem.
Shannon
You're Face Here
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From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of
joshhignight@techography.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:42 PM
To: Scirocco List
Subject: RE: strange turbo pic
Odd idea, here's where things originate it seems...
http://www.ufba.org/forum/index.php?board=16;action=display;threadid=347
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Looks ok to me (not the greatest, but ok), but I don't claim to know
much about turbos.
Joshua
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Okay, somebody explain this...
<http://home.attbi.com/~dindoit/pics/TurboLT1a.jpg>
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