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Subject: Hall Sender
From: scirocco-al at insight.rr.com (scirocco-al)
Date: Sun Jul 27 13:08:23 2003
References: <20030727.120414.468.2.derrickmd18@juno.com><002301c35476$675120b0$f9dfc018@sirpukalot>
    What year car?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sal Guzzo" <pellom@yorku.ca>
To: <derrickmd18@juno.com>
Cc: <juliemac57@hotmail.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Hall Sender


> Well, the problem is that when the rocco gets up to a certain temp (after
the raad fan kicks on) the car
> shuts off and refuses to start again until it cools down.  I can't give
precise temp readings as to when
> it will die and when it will start but that's the basics of the problem.
The car will start every time
> that it sits.  Tha rocco has no problems starting and/or running like a
bat out of hell.  Fuel pump is
> new, fuel filter new, tune up done, fuel pump relay non-existent as I
replaced it with a fused, switched
> jumper wire...other items also replaced but nada...
>
> Like I said, in order to troubleshoot the system, I decided to run through
all the tests as per la
> Bentley and that's how I came across confusion in regards to the hall
sender.  The hall sender failed
> the Bentley test...the temp sensor also failed the Bentley test...I can
rationalize buying that part new
> cuz it's like $10.
>
> If the car starts, that means the spark is there....it may be weak right?
Now when the car gets 'warmed
> up' and it cuts out, is it possible that the hall sender is heating up and
failing me????  I dunno....I
> need to be enlightened on this subject matter...
>
> TIA
>
> Sal Guzzo
> 81 Scirocco 16V (wanting to partake in tha GCBS autocross)
> 84 Vwabbit (in storage)
> 67 Peugeot (in storage)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <derrickmd18@juno.com>
> To: <pellom@yorku.ca>
> Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>; <rocco16v@netzero.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Hall Sender
>
>
> > I would get a used one.  and if it fixes it.  OK  u can get one from on
> > scirocco.org for cheap. u try shaking the injector lines to see if that
> > the problem.  One of the injectors might have popped out.  That what
> > happened on my car.  test the spark plug wires for resistance to see if
> > they are bad or not.  check the plugs to see if they are fouled.  if  u
> > have a timing light hook it up to #1 cylinder wire to see of u have a
> > constant spark.  I found out my coil was bad that way.  mine had a dead
> > miss in the motor.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:53:28 -0400 "Sal Guzzo" <pellom@yorku.ca> writes:
> > > Larry, thanks for the advise...seeing that I have no idea why my
> > > rocco is not running and I can't track
> > > it down (nor can anyone else for that matter), I might as well buy
> > > each sensor, computer, switch
> > > available for a 16V rocco.  I should have a coupla g-notes stashed
> > > away somewhere...
> > >
> > > Seriously tho guy, can you explain why a hall sender can be bad but
> > > the car starts and runs...that's all
> > > I'm asking...keep it on topic and I'll spend my money as it needs to
> > > be spent (I've already suspected
> > > the coil and bought a stupid coil and it didn't help; so don't tell
> > > me to just replace it when it may
> > > not be the solution to the problem)...
> > >
> > > Larry you did offer an explanation (possibly) so be nice... :)
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Sal Guzzo
> > >
> > > - Fear is your only god.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "L F" <rocco16v@netzero.net>
> > > To: "Sal Guzzo" <pellom@YORKU.CA>; "Scirocco List"
> > > <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Hall Sender
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm confused too.
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > If in doubt, just replace the Hall unit.  It's not that expensive
> > > (about $125 the last time I bought
> > > one).
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   From: Sal Guzzo
> > > >   To: L F ; Scirocco List
> > > >   Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:34 AM
> > > >   Subject: Re: Hall Sender
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Well, that's kinda helpful...I think  :)
> > > >
> > > >   Here's the situation...I did the Hall Sender test as per the
> > > Bentley and nada....BUT the rocco
> > > >   starts...I've concluded the hall sender is bad but the car runs?
> > >  I'm confused..lol.
> > > >
> > > >   Oh and the test light does work.
> > > >
> > > >   Sal Guzzo
> > > >
> > > >   - Fear is your only god.
> > > >
> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   From: "L F" <rocco16v@netzero.net>
> > > >   To: "Sal Guzzo" <pellom@yorku.ca>; "Scirocco List"
> > > <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > >   Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:17 PM
> > > >   Subject: Re: Hall Sender
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   > The answer is......
> > > >   > maybe.
> > > >   >
> > > >   > hope this helps.  I haven't got time to go into it all right
> > > now...posssibly later.
> > > >   >
> > > >   > Larry
> > > >   > grouchy old crock
> > > >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   >   From: Sal Guzzo
> > > >   >   To: Scirocco List
> > > >   >   Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:43 AM
> > > >   >   Subject: Hall Sender
> > > >   >
> > > >   >
> > > >   >   Someone please verify something for me...pleaz.
> > > >   >
> > > >   >   If a Hall Sender is bad, the car won't start right?  Car:
> > > 16V Scirocco...
> > > >   >
> > > >   >   Thanks
> > > >   >
> > > >   >   Sal Guzzo
> > > >   >   81 Scirocco 16V
> > > >   >   84 Vwabbit
> > > >   >   67 Peugeot 404
> > > >   >
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  - From: derrickmd18 at juno.com (derrickmd18@juno.com)
- Hall Sender
  - From: pellom at yorku.ca (Sal Guzzo)
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