engine swap shops -South Jersey

[JestersG60 at worldnet.att.net (Eric Lonchambon)]

>We don't know the details of the swap that Eric was quoted. Maybe, if he
>would care to share all the details we would be in a position to slam the
>pricetag.>just my .02>Dan

NGP is a good shop, indeed , which is why I called them first. But for me,
they are out of state.
$4,000-$,5000. ABA with the cross flow head and manifold, MAF, ECU, motor
mounts,16V scirocco trans w/driveshafts, new clutch and 16V brakes. Dave
said it would be a complete motor swap. It would look exactly like it would
in a Golf/Jetta III. about half the price would be labor.
115 hp.  Does not include performance upgrades.


>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eric S" <scirocco81@vwmail.net>
>To: "Eric Lonchambon" <JestersG60@worldnet.att.net>
>Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:08 PM
>Subject: Re: engine swap shops -South Jersey
>
>
>> Hey Eric...
>>
>> First things first...fix your computer man...it thinks its June 15th. :-)
>>
>> Now...as for $5k for a motor swap....no way on an ABA swap.  Those motors
>are a dime a dozen now a days...they would be charging you $4000 in
>labor!!!!!!! $1200 would be more fair on the labor side...especially if
they
>used your injection and head on just an ABA bottom end.
>>
>> Now...if that was a 1.8T swap...that would be a good deal (motors going
>for $2000, not $250 as I've seen for ABA motors).
>>
>> You might want to look around for a different shop to quote you swaps...
>>
>> --
>> Eric
>> www.VintageWatercooleds.com
>>
>> 79 VW Iltis
>> 81 Scirocco S (*TDI* swap and complete restoration in holding pattern)
>> 81 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel (FOR SALE!)
>> 81 Rabbit Truck 2.0 16v Motronic
>> 83 Scirocco Wolfsburg
>> 91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow 8v swap and mechanical rebuild in progress)
>>
>>
>> --- "Eric Lonchambon" <JestersG60@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >I cannot do the work myself, Kevin. I do  not have garage, special
tools,
>a
>> >lift, a place to keep the car while it is being worked on. Where the car
>is
>> >parked now - you can't kneel down on the pavement it is so course and
>jagged
>> >,it can cut you up. I could borrow a one car garage for  a few weeks ,
>but
>> >that's it. I would love to do the work , but I would only be a helper,
as
>I
>> >am inexperiened. Everytime I tried to work on my previous sciroccos
there
>> >was always a certain bolt that I couldn't get off, or certain tool I
>didn't
>> >have. so, i don't have the time or facilities. I live near the NJ  shore
>so,
>> >it is far from other listers in the Philly region. I was recommended do
>an
>> >8V  p&P head on a ABA. I would be willing to pay to have someone come do
>the
>> >work, once I have gathred the motor and other parts needed, etc. Anyone
>> >interested in spending a few saturdays over here? I already spent $500
on
>a
>> >tow and shop work to get it running right. It resulted in absolutey
>nothing.
>> >It still doesn't start. So once the car gets towed to a location I want
>> >everything done and running good.
>> > NGP's price sounded fair for $5K, but then what about performance
>upgrades.
>> >I want to buy other stuff and also need some paint and body repair . In
>the
>> >end,  I will have spent $10K on a car worth $1500 that no one wants to
>buy
>> >when I have to sell.
>> > I know. I have a friend that won waterfest 1st place years ago. His
>> >scirocco is still sitting in his garage in the same condition
>> >(motor/restored/kitted) . He spent 15Gs on the car and now won't get
half
>as
>> >much back..so i am on a budget, like the rest of you. I am not cheap,
>it's
>> >just that this is a side project and I just bought a new car for daily
>> >driving and I am tapped out for a while.  ...
>> > Eric L
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Kervin Ridgley <kridgley@brownscar.com>To: Eric Lonchambon
>> >
>> >A MK1 is fun to drive all the time.  I'm sure there will be many,
>including
>> >me, that think you should find a way to do the work yourself.  I
wouldn't
>> >pay someone to do the brake conversion.  You should be able to save a
>little
>> >that way.  If the $5k included a tranny with a bolt kit and new seals, a
>low
>> >mileage ABA with a knock sensor, all new shifter stuff and the 16v brake
>> >conversion, then the price is not too evil.  On the other hand, you
could
>> >get a JH short block for next to nothing, buy a 020 5 speed, spend some
>> >money on a p&p head, 4-2 manifold and nice exhaust, and just vented
>rotors.
>> >That might save you about $2k.
>> >==============================================
>> >Hello all.
>> >This autumn, I plan on getting the 1.6L (does not run) replaced with
>> >whatever engine combo you suggest will make this stock 1979 Scirocco
>quick
>> >and fun to drive. I live in southern New Jersey, USA. Does anyone know
of
>> >someONE or a some experienced reputable shop in my area that can help me
>> >with the following situation??
>> >
>> >I thought it may be easier to  start by buying  someone else's  project
>for
>> >sale, but this car I recently purchased has 35,000 original miles on it
>and
>> >, besides  some minor collision damage, requires no restoration work (no
>> >rust), near perfect interior. The car is like a time capsule. New German
>> >Performance quoted me a $4-$5K fr a complete A3 2.0L ABA motor
conversion
>> >(intake, e.c.u., 5 speed trans, clutch, 16v scirocco brakes). In reality
>I
>> >can expect this quote to go over budget by maybe one thousand
>dollars...Then
>> >what about all the fun stuff.. wheels, suspension , accessories..
$$$$$$$
>!!
>> >As Scott Williams told me, $5000 for 115 HP is not worth it.
>> >
>> >What should I do with this car?
>> >
>> >Eric L
>> >
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