engine swap shops -South Jersey

[jdbubb at ix.netcom.com (Dan Bubb)]

Just want to chime in here and say that NGP is an excellent shop. Perhaps
not the cheapest, but resonable and they do quality work
It's clear to a lot of us that this kind of swap can be done for lots less,
but that assumes junkyard parts and home labor. I'm sure that for $5k Eric
wouldn't be getting a junkyard engine. And would be getting a professional
installation!
We don't know the details of the swap that Eric was quoted. Maybe, if he
would care to share all the details we would be in a position to slam the
pricetag.
just my .02
Dan


----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric S" <scirocco81@vwmail.net>
To: "Eric Lonchambon" <JestersG60@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: engine swap shops -South Jersey


> Hey Eric...
>
> First things first...fix your computer man...it thinks its June 15th. :-)
>
> Now...as for $5k for a motor swap....no way on an ABA swap.  Those motors
are a dime a dozen now a days...they would be charging you $4000 in
labor!!!!!!! $1200 would be more fair on the labor side...especially if they
used your injection and head on just an ABA bottom end.
>
> Now...if that was a 1.8T swap...that would be a good deal (motors going
for $2000, not $250 as I've seen for ABA motors).
>
> You might want to look around for a different shop to quote you swaps...
>
> --
> Eric
> www.VintageWatercooleds.com
>
> 79 VW Iltis
> 81 Scirocco S (*TDI* swap and complete restoration in holding pattern)
> 81 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel (FOR SALE!)
> 81 Rabbit Truck 2.0 16v Motronic
> 83 Scirocco Wolfsburg
> 91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow 8v swap and mechanical rebuild in progress)
>
>
> --- "Eric Lonchambon" <JestersG60@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >I cannot do the work myself, Kevin. I do  not have garage, special tools,
a
> >lift, a place to keep the car while it is being worked on. Where the car
is
> >parked now - you can't kneel down on the pavement it is so course and
jagged
> >,it can cut you up. I could borrow a one car garage for  a few weeks ,
but
> >that's it. I would love to do the work , but I would only be a helper, as
I
> >am inexperiened. Everytime I tried to work on my previous sciroccos there
> >was always a certain bolt that I couldn't get off, or certain tool I
didn't
> >have. so, i don't have the time or facilities. I live near the NJ  shore
so,
> >it is far from other listers in the Philly region. I was recommended do
an
> >8V  p&P head on a ABA. I would be willing to pay to have someone come do
the
> >work, once I have gathred the motor and other parts needed, etc. Anyone
> >interested in spending a few saturdays over here? I already spent $500 on
a
> >tow and shop work to get it running right. It resulted in absolutey
nothing.
> >It still doesn't start. So once the car gets towed to a location I want
> >everything done and running good.
> > NGP's price sounded fair for $5K, but then what about performance
upgrades.
> >I want to buy other stuff and also need some paint and body repair . In
the
> >end,  I will have spent $10K on a car worth $1500 that no one wants to
buy
> >when I have to sell.
> > I know. I have a friend that won waterfest 1st place years ago. His
> >scirocco is still sitting in his garage in the same condition
> >(motor/restored/kitted) . He spent 15Gs on the car and now won't get half
as
> >much back..so i am on a budget, like the rest of you. I am not cheap,
it's
> >just that this is a side project and I just bought a new car for daily
> >driving and I am tapped out for a while.  ...
> > Eric L
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Kervin Ridgley <kridgley@brownscar.com>To: Eric Lonchambon
> >
> >A MK1 is fun to drive all the time.  I'm sure there will be many,
including
> >me, that think you should find a way to do the work yourself.  I wouldn't
> >pay someone to do the brake conversion.  You should be able to save a
little
> >that way.  If the $5k included a tranny with a bolt kit and new seals, a
low
> >mileage ABA with a knock sensor, all new shifter stuff and the 16v brake
> >conversion, then the price is not too evil.  On the other hand, you could
> >get a JH short block for next to nothing, buy a 020 5 speed, spend some
> >money on a p&p head, 4-2 manifold and nice exhaust, and just vented
rotors.
> >That might save you about $2k.
> >==============================================
> >Hello all.
> >This autumn, I plan on getting the 1.6L (does not run) replaced with
> >whatever engine combo you suggest will make this stock 1979 Scirocco
quick
> >and fun to drive. I live in southern New Jersey, USA. Does anyone know of
> >someONE or a some experienced reputable shop in my area that can help me
> >with the following situation??
> >
> >I thought it may be easier to  start by buying  someone else's  project
for
> >sale, but this car I recently purchased has 35,000 original miles on it
and
> >, besides  some minor collision damage, requires no restoration work (no
> >rust), near perfect interior. The car is like a time capsule. New German
> >Performance quoted me a $4-$5K fr a complete A3 2.0L ABA motor conversion
> >(intake, e.c.u., 5 speed trans, clutch, 16v scirocco brakes). In reality
I
> >can expect this quote to go over budget by maybe one thousand
dollars...Then
> >what about all the fun stuff.. wheels, suspension , accessories.. $$$$$$$
!!
> >As Scott Williams told me, $5000 for 115 HP is not worth it.
> >
> >What should I do with this car?
> >
> >Eric L
> >
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