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Brake problems in a 16v Conversion (85 Cabriolet)
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Oh and I want the WHITE roc, grrrrrrr. How how everybody can find then =
but me.
Brian
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jeffrey W. Bynum=20
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 7:57 PM
Subject: Brake problems in a 16v Conversion (85 Cabriolet)
I am in need of some brake diagnosis help. The car in question is =
a 1985 Cabriolet with a full 16v conversion- motor, tranny, all wiring, =
brakes, MC, booster, pedal cluster, rear disk axle beam, exhaust, etc. =
Esentially it is a complete Scirocco 16v transplanted into a Cabriolet.
The brakes have no pedal - it goes all the way to the floor. The =
front brakes are off of a running/driving 16v Scirocco (new pads, and =
rotors), the rear is a scirocco axle beam, and A3 calipers (brand new, =
new pads, new rotors, etc). The car also has a new 22mm Corrado MC. I =
first tried bleeding the brakes with my Motive power bleeder- starting =
at the rear PS, with the A3 caliper removed from the stub axle so that I =
could bleed it with the nipple facing corrrectly, as not to induce air =
into the system. from there moving on to the DS rear, PS front, and then =
DS front. The brakes bleed great, all air seems to be evacuated, and =
then when I get in the car....WTF?!?!? no pedal. I tried replacing the =
MC with another new one (this time a german ATE instead of an Italian =
made one), to the same result. I tried replacing the booster with =
another, same result. Always bleeds fine, but still no pedal. I have =
even tried bleeding it manually, but no go. I used all new or known good =
parts to avoid problems, but no luck. I even connected all the lines =
without the proportioning valves , just to see if it made any =
difference. I would appreciate any and all input on the matter, as I =
would really like to get the car out of my garage to move another =
project inside.....(1988 Scirocco 16v , 47k original miles, white, no =
sunroof, manual window/lock, cloth /vinyl, 1 lady owner, =
nonsmoker....)......help please. I can make em run, just not having much =
luck in stopping this thing....
Jeffrey W. Bynum
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh and I want the WHITE roc, grrrrrrr. =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 11, =
2003 7:57=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Brake problems in a =
16v=20
Conversion (85 Cabriolet)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I am in need of =
some brake=20
diagnosis help. The car in question is a 1985 Cabriolet with a full =
16v=20
conversion- motor, tranny, all wiring, brakes, MC, booster, pedal =
cluster,=20
rear disk axle beam, exhaust, etc. Esentially it is a complete =
Scirocco 16v=20
transplanted into a Cabriolet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The brakes have no =
pedal - it=20
goes all the way to the floor. The front brakes are off of a =
running/driving=20
16v Scirocco (new pads, and rotors), the rear is a scirocco axle =
beam,=20
and A3 calipers (brand new, new pads, new rotors, etc). The car also =
has a new=20
22mm Corrado MC. I first tried bleeding the brakes with my Motive =
power=20
bleeder- starting at the rear PS, with the A3 caliper removed from the =
stub=20
axle so that I could bleed it with the nipple facing corrrectly, as =
not to=20
induce air into the system. from there moving on to the DS rear, PS =
front, and=20
then DS front. The brakes bleed great, all air seems to be evacuated, =
and then=20
when I get in the car....WTF?!?!? no pedal. I tried replacing the MC =
with=20
another new one (this time a german ATE instead of an Italian made =
one), to=20
the same result. I tried replacing the booster with another, same =
result.=20
Always bleeds fine, but still no pedal. I have even tried bleeding it=20
manually, but no go. I used all new or known good parts to avoid =
problems, but=20
no luck. I even connected all the lines without the proportioning =
valves ,=20
just to see if it made any difference. I would appreciate any and =
all=20
input on the matter, as I would really like to get the car out of my =
garage to=20
move another project inside.....(1988 Scirocco 16v , 47k original =
miles,=20
white, no sunroof, manual window/lock, cloth /vinyl, 1 lady owner,=20
nonsmoker....)......help please. I can make em run, just not having =
much luck=20
in stopping this thing....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeffrey W. Bynum</FONT></DIV>
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