twin - possibility of a2 subframes?

[vwscir88@hotmail.com (brett cooke)]

is an a2 subframe the same as a b3 subframe?



So Sayeth The Hitman
'88 "stripe" 16v scirocco
<http://www.techography.net:82/brettsgarage>





>From: "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>
>To: "Joe Doty" <Joe.Doty@lcnetwork.com>,   "scirocco list" 
><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: twin - possibility of a2 subframes?
>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:01:03 -0500
>
>yup, thats a definite 'pro', problem is where am i gonna get 2 *complete* 
>a2
>subframes?
>Al
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Doty" <Joe.Doty@lcnetwork.com>
>To: "Allyn" <amalventano@sc.rr.com>; "scirocco list"
><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 5:54 PM
>Subject: RE: twin - possibility of a2 subframes?
>
>
>Well, if you do a2 subframes, you can swap in two VR6s when two 16vs
>gets old :)
>
>Joe Doty
>IT/Development
>joe@lcnetwork.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Allyn [mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com]
> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 2:48 PM
> > To: scirocco list
> > Subject: twin - possibility of a2 subframes?
> >
> > ok, i've been uneducated in the past when o-so many listers have told
>me
> > to
> > use an a2 subframe in the twin. the events from this past weekend
>(clutch
> > release arm finger snapped on the jetta, much thanks to Ron for the
>tech
> > assist), have given me some more insight as to just how the a2
>subframe is
> > laid out. enough insight to possibly justify using a2 subframes (yes,
>2)
> > on
> > the twin.
> >
> > pros:
> > - simpler tubular subframe design in area of engines (fewer tie
>points,
> > slightly less weight as well)
> > - future engine upgrades possible (twin vr6 anyone?)
> > - can possibly use newer hubs that hold larger bearings
> > - simpler removal/install of engines for rebuild
> >
> > cons:
> > - many parts are not on hand (would need 2 sets of all mounts, mount
> > brackets, subframes, power steering racks, suspension arms, hubs, etc)
> > - expense of engine mounts (possibility of molding/making urethane
>mounts
> > from broken old a2 mounts in-house?)
> > - possible net weight increase in the end (due to added weight of
> > subframes)
> >
> > so, guys/gals, what should i do? stick with a1 style (cheaper, but
>more
> > intrusive/complex subframe), or go with a2 (making the subframe
>simpler,
> > but
> > adding expense)???
> >
> >
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