Desperation... any more ideas (16V problems)?

[rhock99@epix.net (Ryan H)]

It had the same symptoms though?  I did think of the idle switch once (maybe it was coming on at WOT and telling the knock box I'm at idle - no advance), but I thought this was too far-fetched.  My idle switch clicks when I close it, but I haven't tested it vigorously.  By "click", everyone means the mechanical noise that the metal contacts make, right?  Or is it an electrical click?  (In other words, did you replace the little plastic electrical thing, or mechanical parts on the TB?)
Thanks again.
 
> When my cis-e swap did the same thing your describing, it was a bad idle
> switch on the TB.......sometimes it would just simply stick
> closed,......or open.
> 
> You have to open and close the butterfly by hand and listen for the
> little "click" if it doesn't click when the switch opens and closes,
> each and every time.....then the switch is bad.
> 
> B
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Ryan H
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 7:58 PM
> To: Brian McGarvey
> Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: Desperation... any more ideas (16V problems)?
> 
> Brian, i tested the DPR (to adjust the fuel mixture), and the readings
> bounced around within +-2 mA.  From what I've heard, if the reading
> sticks at 20mA, then the O2 sensor is dead, so I'm going to assume mine
> works.
> 
> > 
> > From: Brian McGarvey <brianm@earendel.org>
> > Date: 2003/02/09 Sun PM 10:50:58 EST
> > To: Ryan H <rhock99@epix.net>
> > CC: Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com>,  "" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Subject: Re: Desperation... any more ideas (16V problems)?
> > 
> > You might have gotten extremely unlucky and got a broken o2 sensor. 
> > Brian
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Ryan H wrote:
> > 
> > > Oops, knew I forgot to mention something.
> > > I replaced the O2 sensor also.  And the strange thing is, with it
> plugged in or not, the car runs the same. 
> > > I also replaced the KE-Jetronic box just in case.
> > > 
> > > > o2 sensor can put the car into limp home mode... also, it would do
> it until
> > > > 'a few minutes' after cycling the ignition (warm up mode).
> > > > Al
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ryan H" <rhock99@epix.net>
> > > > To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:10 PM
> > > > Subject: Desperation... any more ideas (16V problems)?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > OK, I'm out of ideas.  Car runs in limp mode 90% of the time
> > > > (progressively got worse).  If I turn it off then on, or nearly
> stall the
> > > > engine, it goes normal for a few minutes.  I've replaced (or
> swapped) nearly
> > > > everything I can think of (list below) that would be related.
> Still
> > > > nothing.  Anyone near Scranton PA that would be willing to help me
> with the
> > > > car?  Like take it off my hands and try to fix it for however long
> it takes.
> > > > I'd pay $200 + whatever parts need to be replaced to anyone who
> could figure
> > > > it out... really.
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, here's the list of things done:
> > > > > New fuel filter (cheap one, though, but still...)
> > > > > New knock sensor
> > > > > Swapped knock boxes & ICM (tried 2 different ones)
> > > > > Swapped distrib/hall sender
> > > > > Swapped coil (part store only had 8V coil, but it still did the
> same
> > > > thing... can't find a 16V coil to test with)
> > > > > Timed motor many times
> > > > > New rotor/cap
> > > > > New plugs/wires
> > > > > Swapped coolant sensor
> > > > > New main pump
> > > > > New transfer pump
> > > > > Hardwired FP relay
> > > > > Checked & cleaned as many connections as I could
> > > > >
> > > > > This problem bothers me even more because the car runs sooo
> strong when
> > > > it's normal.  When it's not, I can't even get to 4000+ rpm.  Geo
> Metros pass
> > > > me like I'm stopped. :o
> > > > >
> > > > >
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