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Sealer is a bitch.
If you want a top notch job you gotta get that stuff off. Only way I =
know of I stated before, i.e. terrazzi grinder (800 lb six =
puck(corrumdum stones) monster). there may be chemical strippers out =
there. But I cant speak from experience. Shot blasting is very dusty, =
noisy, and possibly weakens the concrete. Grinder is done in the wet. =
so have a shop vac handy else you'll have a concrete driveway as well...
Maybye there's a rental unit (grinder) that's more manageable? and you =
will need an angle grinder for the edges...
I know where you're comming from you want a quality job that will last a =
long time, (I'd say 20 years or more in a home garage application) =
compared to probably 3 years for concrete paint. Depending on your =
budget maybye you could get a commercial contractor to do it for you. =
Maybye they'd be willing to do just the grinding, from experience I'd =
say a two car garage would take ~3 hours to grind plus edges of course.
Jason Adams
Fahrvergnugen Forever! ;)
84 rocco 16v
93 320i
98 Z71
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From: Anson Clement=20
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: OT garage floor coatings
Thanks for all the input guy's, I just returned from the inner =
sanctuary a.k.a garage. Sad news, the floor appears to have been treated =
with a concrete sealer. From what I understand epoxy will not adhere to =
sealed concrete unless it has been shot blasted and sometimes not even =
then. Apparently acid etching will not touch sealer. Any bright ideas? =
I'm not about to pay for shot blasting and an angle grinder would take =
several years.... if my girlfriend let me live that long.
Anson
My Stepfather owns a company that applied floorcoatings used in ware =
houses, and as a part time job when I was in university I helped on =
weekends.... So I know what I'm talking about...=20
For high traffic areas we used a two part epoxy made by Tennant, 424 I =
believe was the model designation, The second "part" was actually a =
powder you mixed in for the abrasion resistance. It you want any =
non-skid areas sprinkle some #0 sillica sand when applying the second =
coat (at the end) else change rollers when moving back to the rest of =
the garage.=20
As for application, well that depends, is the floor currently painted? =
if it is, remove it, we used a terrazzi grinder which used 6 corrundum =
stones to chew the paint up and clean the concrete. This is not =
practicle for the home user. Do your best, spend 90% of your time on =
prep work. a metal scraper and paint remover for stubborn areas may =
work, If it's really stubborn leave it, it must be bonded on good, after =
chipping,scraping, sanding, definately acid wash, the stuff we used was =
Tennant 409 concrete cleaner but any muriatic or hydrochloric acid will =
do. after acid wash (with mop), rinse with lots of water. let dry a =
minimum of 6 hours or overnight (after you've squeegeed off water), more =
if humid and or cold.=20
remember, prep, prep prep.=20
we took all the floors down to bare concrete for best bond, because we =
don't mae any money on call backs. If you're going to paint over painted =
floor and not prep rigorusly don't wasteyour money on epoxy, it won't =
stick... I know=20
jason.=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Anson Clement=20
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:46 PM=20
Subject: OT garage floor coatings=20
I'm going to be coating my garage floor in the next month, any =
recomendations for what to use/not use and how to prep or apply?=20
Anson=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sealer is a bitch.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you want a top notch job you gotta =
get that=20
stuff off. Only way I know of I stated before, i.e. terrazzi =
grinder (800=20
lb six puck(corrumdum stones) monster). there may be chemical strippers =
out=20
there. But I cant speak from experience. Shot blasting is very dusty, =
noisy, and=20
possibly weakens the concrete. Grinder is done in the wet. so have =
a shop=20
vac handy else you'll have a concrete driveway as well...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybye there's a rental unit =
(grinder) that's=20
more manageable? and you will need an angle grinder for the=20
edges...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know where you're comming from you =
want a quality=20
job that will last a long time, (I'd say 20 years or more in a home =
garage=20
application) compared to probably 3 years for concrete paint. =
Depending on=20
your budget maybye you could get a commercial contractor to do it for =
you.=20
Maybye they'd be willing to do just the grinding, from experience I'd =
say a two=20
car garage would take ~3 hours to grind plus edges of =
course.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Jason Adams<BR>Fahrvergnugen Forever! ;)<BR>84 rocco 16v<BR>93 =
320i<BR>98=20
Z71<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: OT garage floor=20
coatings</DIV>
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<P>Thanks for all the input guy's, I just returned from the inner =
sanctuary=20
a.k.a garage. Sad news, the floor appears to have been treated with a =
concrete=20
sealer. From what I understand epoxy will not adhere to sealed =
concrete unless=20
it has been shot blasted and sometimes not even then. Apparently acid =
etching=20
will not touch sealer. Any bright ideas? I'm not about to pay for shot =
blasting and an angle grinder would take several years.... if my =
girlfriend=20
let me live that long.</P>
<P>Anson<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>My Stepfather owns a company that applied floorcoatings =
used in=20
ware houses, and as a part time job when I was in university I helped =
on=20
weekends.... So I know what I'm talking about...=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>For high traffic areas we used a two part epoxy made by =
Tennant,=20
424 I believe was the model designation, The second "part" was =
actually a=20
powder you mixed in for the abrasion resistance. It you want any =
non-skid=20
areas sprinkle some #0 sillica sand when applying the second coat (at =
the end)=20
else change rollers when moving back to the rest of the garage.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>As for application, well that depends, is the floor =
currently=20
painted? if it is, remove it, we used a terrazzi grinder which used 6=20
corrundum stones to chew the paint up and clean the concrete. This is =
not=20
practicle for the home user. Do your best, spend 90% of your time on =
prep=20
work. a metal scraper and paint remover for stubborn areas may work, =
If it's=20
really stubborn leave it, it must be bonded on good, after =
chipping,scraping,=20
sanding, definately acid wash, the stuff we used was Tennant 409 =
concrete=20
cleaner but any muriatic or hydrochloric acid will do. after acid wash =
(with=20
mop), rinse with lots of water. let dry a minimum of 6 hours or =
overnight=20
(after you've squeegeed off water), more if humid and or cold.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>remember, prep, prep prep.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>we took all the floors down to bare concrete for best bond, =
because=20
we don't mae any money on call backs. If you're going to paint over =
painted=20
floor and not prep rigorusly don't wasteyour money on epoxy, it won't =
stick...=20
I know=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>jason.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV></DIV>From: Anson Clement=20
<DIV></DIV>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
<DIV></DIV>Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:46 PM=20
<DIV></DIV>Subject: OT garage floor coatings=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I'm going to be coating my garage floor in the next month, =
any=20
recomendations for what to use/not use and how to prep or apply?=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Anson=20
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