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flex-a-lite wiring help

Subject: flex-a-lite wiring help
From: txrocco at sbcglobal.net (ATS - Patrick Bureau)
Date: Tue Aug 19 09:58:51 2003
In-reply-to: <2B6539EA-D02D-11D7-AF8F-0030654D97EC@digipen.edu>
yes the original brown wire coming from the OEM relay must be grounded, I
grounded the red wires of the dual fan together with the browm wire of the
oem setup back to the battery.


ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
=>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Chris Venturini
=>Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:04 PM
=>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
=>Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>
=>
=>*sigh*
=>
=>ok, Round 3
=>
=>Today's the day...or maybe tomarrow.
=>
=>So I touched the wires to the battery and the fans work great! But when
=>I hook it all back up I still get nothing. So now its down to 3
=>things...i think. 1.) The OEM relay. Where can i find this, and how do
=>I test it/fix it? 2.) The original brown fan wire. Its just hanging
=>there. Is that right? 3.)I guess I could have a bad ground??
=>
=>Keep in mind Im not good at this stuff, yet. Im just an animator, not
=>an electrician/mechanic. So talk to me like Im 12 or something.
=>
=>-chris
=>
=>On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 06:08 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
=>
=>> if you had the twi black wire (shown as brown on the diagram) to
=>> seperate
=>> relays then you made the mistake of not reading the diagram properly.
=>> both wires must be be together, and uyou run 2 leads from each port
=>> #87 on
=>> each relays, and attch them together then together with the black wire.
=>> not seperation at all. the diagram is clear and consice, make sure your
=>> wires at properly wires to the right connection, if in doubt there
=>> could be
=>> a chance you have a bad fan, touch the battery poles with your fan
=>> wires...
=>> you will see if it "turbines" or not (youll know what I mean by
=>> turbine when
=>> you test it)
=>>
=>> Once you have the wirring correctly done, and you get the same result,
=>> I
=>> would check the OEM relay where the power is coming from.
=>>
=>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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=>>
=>>
=>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
=>> =>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:14 PM
=>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
=>> =>Cc: Ryan H; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>ok, round 2.
=>> =>
=>> =>I havent gotten much chance to work on this since i get home from
=>> work
=>> =>at dusk, and I have no garage/lights. But I did manage to get it
=>> "test"
=>> =>wired. But its still not workin. I got the 2 relays and they are all
=>> =>wired up like it shows in the diagram here
=>> =><http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/pics/fan7.jpg> nothin. This of course
=>> =>after I let it warm up and get to high temp. Then I started messin
=>> =>around just trying to get a spark or some sign of current, and i
=>> =>attached the original brown vw fan wire to the high speed relay prong
=>> =>36 (where the red/white wire was) and one fan came on....kinda. it
=>> was
=>> =>very weak. Anyways, thats the best I could do tonight....and here i
=>> am
=>> =>once again confused. Looking at the diagram again, i know for sure i
=>> =>had it all wired right, except for the two black flex-a-lite wires. I
=>> =>had them each go to seperate relays. Im assuming thats wrong? What
=>> =>other reason might there be for it not working, other than my
=>> stupidity?
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 05:08 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
=>> =>
=>> =>> well if you are not using relays, the red wires from the fan are
=>> to be
=>> =>> connected to a ground source, the brown wires are to be connected
=>> to
=>> =>> the low
=>> =>> speed wire, (red/black) and the red/white well it does nothing
=>> because
=>> =>> your
=>> =>> not using relays, plug it, I had mine setup like this for 2 years
=>> =>> without a
=>> =>> problem, but if your  radiator (or collant system) is not super
=>> clean,
=>> =>> squeaky clean, you will get maybe issues when you need high speed,
=>> one
=>> =>> of
=>> =>> the worries though never happened to me because my coolant system
=>> was
=>> =>> revamped anyways.
=>> =>>
=>> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
=>> =>> ----------------------------------------------
=>> =>> MSN:ATSGTX@hotmail.com |YAHOO:ATSGTX@yahoo.com
=>> =>> ICQ:32918816           |AIM:Texasscirocco
=>> =>> ----------------------------------------------
=>> =>>
=>> =>>
=>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
=>> =>> =>Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:27 AM
=>> =>> =>To: Ryan H
=>> =>> =>Cc: ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>Ok, yeah Im confused. I put the two red fan wires together with
=>> the
=>> =>> =>brown. And the two black fan wires with the red/white? and the
=>> =>> =>red/black does what? its just hangin there right now. I guess i
=>> just
=>> =>> =>want the two fans to come on at the same time.
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 09:24 PM, Ryan H wrote:
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> Awesome job on hiding the relays Patrick, I shoulda thought of
=>> =>> that!
=>> =>> =>> Do you mind if I put that pic up on my tech note?  Anyway, for
=>> the
=>> =>> =>> tech note, you need to type the full address or else it won't
=>> let
=>> =>> you
=>> =>> =>> in: http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/scirocco.htm
=>> =>> =>> Chris, whichever way you decide to do the wiring, ask first
=>> and I'm
=>> =>> =>> sure you'll get some good ideas and detailed how-tos.  Later!
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>>> From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
=>> =>> =>>> Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:45:42 EDT
=>> =>> =>>> To: "Chris Venturini" <cventuri@digipen.edu>,
=>> =>> =>>> 	<Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
=>> =>> =>>> Subject: RE: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>>> here is how I did mine, taking the idea from someone else.. (I
=>> =>> take no
=>> =>> =>>> credit on this mod)
=>> =>> =>>> actually the mod came from another scirocco owner =>  R y a n
=>> =>> H o
=>> =>> =>>> c k e n
=>> =>> =>>> b u r y  , and this is tech note web site
=>> =>> =>>> <http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/>
=>> =>> =>>> address, anyay here is the the diagram is the one I used, and
=>> it
=>> =>> works
=>> =>> =>>> perfect
=>> <http://longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/radfan/fan7.jpg>,
=>> =>> this
=>> =>> =>>> is
=>> =>> =>>> what it looks like. the 2 relays hold unto the fan with
=>> (because
=>> =>> they
=>> =>> =>>> came
=>> =>> =>>> with a single block unit with 2 relays on them) a single tie
=>> wrap
=>> =>> =>>> passing
=>> =>> =>>> throught the casing of the fan , so the relay are hidden
=>> inside
=>> =>> the
=>> =>> =>>> fan as
=>> =>> =>>> shown by this image
=>> =>> =>>> <http://longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/radfan/P5100017.JPG>.
=>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
=>> =>> =>>> ----------------------------------------------
=>> =>> =>>> MSN:ATSGTX@hotmail.com |YAHOO:ATSGTX@yahoo.com
=>> =>> =>>> ICQ:32918816           |AIM:Texasscirocco
=>> =>> =>>> ----------------------------------------------
=>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>> =>>> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Chris
=>> =>> Venturini
=>> =>> =>>> =>Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 PM
=>> =>> =>>> =>To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>>> =>Subject: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>> =>>> =>
=>> =>> =>>> =>
=>> =>> =>>> =>I need help wiring a flex-a-lite fan. Everywhere I read
=>> about it
=>> =>> =>>> doesnt
=>> =>> =>>> =>tell you how to do it completely. Or maybe Im just too
=>> stupid to
=>> =>> =>>> =>understand it. Ive got(on the fans) 2 black, and 2 red. Then
=>> =>> the car
=>> =>> =>>> =>has a brown, a red/white, and a red/black. Can anyone walk
=>> me
=>> =>> =>>> through
=>> =>> =>>> =>this?
=>> =>> =>>> =>
=>> =>> =>>> =>
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