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Megasquirt: group buy / assemble ?
Do we have to get new injectors for this project or can we just use the ones
in our cars now. I'm running a 1.8L 8V, just tryin to play a little with it.
Peace Out,
Rhett
Rocco_crossing
'83 Rocco (autocross ready, tune up, harness bar, rear wheel bearings, and
finally I may get to makeing it look better!!)
>From: Brian McGarvey <brianm@earendel.org>
>To: madsci@rf.org
>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org,GRM Skateboard Racing -- Allyn
><amalventano@sc.rr.com>,Brian Haygood <haygood@myway.com>,Rick Alexander
><ralexander03@snet.net>,Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>,"Scott F. Williams"
><sfwilliams@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: Megasquirt: group buy / assemble ?
>Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 01:19:04 -0400 (EDT)
>
>That would be correct. Im offering to assemble. for a freebie.
>brian
>we might even spin our own ie. a version of the AVR megasquirt for that
>extra capability some of you nitrous ppl might want. and with real
>connectors and FI drivers..
>brian
>
>On Tue, 14 Apr 2003, Madsci wrote:
>
> > So, wait.. Are you offering to assemble these, or at least help assemble
> > them, in exchange for a freebie for the GRM car? Or am I way off? I'd
> > definitely be interested if there's enough of a response. I was planning
> > on putting one on my BMW this summer, since all the required sensors and
> > plumbing are already there, and then seeing about doing the scirocco
> > based on the experience with the BMW.Anyway, count me in for at least
> > one, maybe two, if this works out.
> >
> > -Zach
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-04-14 at 23:17, Brian McGarvey wrote:
> > > Ok folks,
> > > I have a deal for ya. (GRM guy talking so you know there's something
>in it
> > > for the racecar for free -- taking donations again.. yes already plan
>is
> > > for the top 15 next year).
> > >
> > > If you know what megasquirt is you know im talking to you if not then
>you
> > > dont then go google and read up on it. its Electronic Fuel injection.
> > >
> > > http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So here is the deal.
> > > Im willing to put my electronic skills on the table for barter so I
>can
> > > get a megasquirt for the car. Here is the basic plan. If there is
> > > sufficient interest.
> > >
> > > The megasquirt system has some basic components.
> > >
> > > ECU
> > > Relay box (so you can mount megasquirt ECU inside your leaky rocco.
> > > sensors
> > > wiring harness
> > >
> > > then there is a stimulator board that you plug it into to test and
> > > configure. A basic megasquirt ECU + relay box costs about $180 in
>parts
> > >
> > > the stimulator box costs about $50.00
> > >
> > > Then you have to put it together. and build your wiring harness.
> > > if a few people want to go in on a purchase. we can build some very
>nice
> > > systems.
> > >
> > > What I think. CIS is good to about 170-180 HP. You can upgrade the
>fuel
> > > system to a larger 240T CIS distributor. and get to about 220.
> > >
> > > The people who generally want this are looking to be boosted or
>nitrous
> > > injectioned folks who need ALOT more gas and dont want to screw with
>digi1
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Basic iterations of the upgrades.
> > > 1.8L low comp (turbo)
> > >
> > > 1.8L G60 (turbo or supercharger)
> > >
> > > 1.8T 20v elimnates need for FI but not ignition -- not an option until
> > > megajolt or GRM special comes online
> > >
> > > 2.0L xflow (turbo and non-turbo)
> > > 2.0L 8v CIS head (turbo and non-turbo)
> > >
> > > 2.0L 16v (tunability)
> > > 2.0L 16v (turbo / supercharger)
> > >
> > >
> > > all these types of upgrades can benefit from a clean megasquirt
>install.
> > > with a group type buy of wiring, parts, and some distributed work
>there
> > > could be some very nice megasquirt installs on the list.
> > >
> > > Issues.
> > > sensor layouts and wiring lengths
> > > metal fabrication of the enclosure boxes. purchase is easily avail,
>but
> > > faceplate cutout is the issue.
> > > electronic parts assembly and test.
> > > They use some basic non weather/harsh environment connectors we might
>want
> > > to upgrade, cause well - A1's leak.... alot... often ... right on fuse
> > > boxes..
> > > This only supplies the electronics. we need to find an easy and cheap
> > > solution for mountable fuel rails for the stock 8v head, stock 16v
>head,
> > > the xflow, g60, 20v all have one already. The best solution IMHO would
>be
> > > a stock VW part like the late model cabby digi2 fuel rail, but
>pressure
> > > issues may be a problem for really high boost apps.
> > >
> > > A starting/default map for each of these motors.
> > >
> > > Just so you know the GRM car was going to use the stock Jetronic and
>knock
> > > box for ignition mapping and a little electronic magic. But we gotta
>have
> > > the car running first.
> > >
> > > So now it boils down to cost.
> > > the fixed purchase of the stimulator and screws is about 70.00 for the
> > > first 5 and and extra $30.00 for each additional set of 5.
> > >
> > > The fee for this will be 1 megasquirt kit / 5 built --> these will go
> > > toward a GRM car first -- sporting rocco.org stickers if none are
>needed
> > > any additional will be traded off to support GRM cars.
> > >
> > > Without the wiring harness or engine sensors that you will need. cost
>per
> > > purchaser is approximately as follows
> > > group buy members cost / member
> > > 3 - ~330.00
> > > 4 - 295.00
> > > 5 - 271.00
> > > 10 - 250.00
> > >
> > > This is an estimate all labor is donated.
> > > We can make nice wiring harnesses, but it will take some
>experimentation
> > > and planning.
> > >
> > > Brian -- not taking money just suggestions.
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 88 16v $2004 GRM challenge car http://www.grmotorsports.com (more
>machine
> > > work)
> > > 84 0v Next years car got parts? parts for Dougs car now
> > > 82 2.0L Topless bunny -- Knock Ignition and bigger clutch. next.
> > > 90 90q20v doing daily driver duty.
> > > 91 VFR750F everybody needs a 11-12 sec vehicle.
> > >
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>-------------------------------------------------------------
>Brian
>88 16v $2003 GRM challenge car http://www.grmotorsports.com
>84 0v Next years car got parts?
>82 2.0L Topless bunny -- Knock Ignition and bigger clutch. next.
>90 90q20v doing daily driver duty.
>91 VFR750F everybody needs a 11-12 sec vehicle.
>
>Contact method. Email me for AIM, ICQ, YahooIM, IRC, etc.
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