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From: JoshuaA.Conner@VerizonWireless.com (JoshuaA.Conner@VerizonWireless.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:53:45 -0400
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I have had great success with www.deltacams.com <http://www.deltacams.com>
They cut to whatever you need are knowledgable have fast turnaroud, crazy
warranty and it is only $95 a cam.'
 
Joshua C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Smith [mailto:sad_rocc@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Decker; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: best cam?


Perf=performance but I get your idea. Basically, I'm interested in
relatively smooth idle, keeping stock springs and being decent for a DD that
won't see a ton of highway action. Canyon running yes, interstates no. The
rocc has a GTI tb, K&N air filter, 2" exhaust with autotech turbo muffler
and no cat, 4-2 headers and I think that's it. It's a JH engine and 4k
tranny. Here's pretty much what looks good, according to TT: 

266 Hyd.
109 075
$130 
266
243
229
223
.448"
112
-.3 BTDC
5-6 HP
All Hyd. Good/Fair Idle **

260/256 Hyd.
109 072
$130 
260/256
237/234
225/222
219/216
.421"/.410"
111
-2.2 BTDC
4-5 HP~
OBD II & G60 Good Idle

tt 276
109 074
$200 
276
250
238.5
234
.449"
110
6.9 BTDC
10 HP
Rough Idle good W/Early CIS/Carbs*

tt 268
109 071
$130 
268
245/244.5
232.5/231
226/225
.440"
110
2.8 BTDC
6-7 HP
All Hyd. Except OBD II Fair Idle **

* need HD springs
** need HD springs and retainers
 
What do the springs and retainers usually run? TT is currently out of stock.
If this was something I would seriously consider, I can't drop a ton. I'm
pretty much looking to put $500 into the car for now, getting the most bang
for the buck possible.
 
Dan
Decker <boisfort@myhome.net> wrote:

    Perfect will depend on your intake, exhaust, fuel, compression, ignition
etc. Plus what you like and how you drive. Perfect for me might be poor to
you. I have an 86 Audi 10 to 1 compression 8V hydraulic in my 1979 Scirocco
with a good 2 and half in exhaust. I installed a 272 German cam I bought
from AVS in Adna WA and it lit my engine up big time. It is stronger at 2500
and really comes on strong by 3000 and is still going strong when I shift at
6000. To me I don't see how it could be better for a daily driver. I do have
an adjustable Cam pulley and have it set to keep low end power.
Brian Decker

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dan Smith <mailto:sad_rocc@yahoo.com>  
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org <mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org>  
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: best cam?

I'm dreaming about perf. cams in an 8v with a hydro head. What's the best to
go with for a DD? TTuning.com has quite a few different options for all
around the same price.
 
Dan




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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=565402300-15042003>I have 
had great success with <A 
href="http://www.deltacams.com";>www.deltacams.com</A>&nbsp; They cut to whatever 
you need are knowledgable have fast turnaroud, crazy warranty and it is only $95 
a cam.'</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=565402300-15042003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=565402300-15042003>Joshua 
C.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dan Smith 
  [mailto:sad_rocc@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:49 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Decker; scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: best 
  cam?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>Perf=performance but I get your idea. Basically, I'm interested in 
  relatively smooth idle, keeping stock springs and being decent for a DD that 
  won't see a ton of highway action. Canyon running yes, interstates no. The 
  rocc has a GTI tb, K&amp;N air filter, 2" exhaust with autotech turbo muffler 
  and no cat, 4-2 headers and I think that's it. It's a JH engine and 4k tranny. 
  Here's pretty much what looks good, according to TT: </DIV>
  <DIV>
  <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width=1007 
  bgColor=#000000 border=0 x:str>
    <TBODY>
    <TR height=17>
      <TD width=87 bgColor=#ffffff height=17>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>266 
        Hyd.</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=95 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>109 
        075</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=51 bgColor=#ffffff x:num="130">
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>$130 
        </FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=65 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>266</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=79 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>243</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=93 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>229</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=93 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>223</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=86 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>.448"</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=50 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>112</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=98 bgColor=#ffffff x:str="'-.3 BTDC">
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>-.3 
        BTDC</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=61 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>5-6 
        HP</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=126 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>All 
        Hyd. Good/Fair Idle **</FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
  <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width=1007 
  bgColor=#000000 border=0 x:str>
    <TBODY>
    <TR height=17>
      <TD width=87 bgColor=#ffffff height=17>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>260/256 Hyd.</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=95 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>109 
        072</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=51 bgColor=#ffffff x:num="130">
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>$130 
        </FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=65 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>260/256</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=79 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>237/234</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=93 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>225/222</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=93 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>219/216</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=86 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>.421"/.410"</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=50 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>111</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=98 bgColor=#ffffff x:str="'-2.2 BTDC">
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>-2.2 
        BTDC</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=61 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>4-5 
        HP~</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=126 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>OBD 
        II &amp; G60 Good Idle</FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
  <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width=1007 
  bgColor=#000000 border=0 x:str>
    <TBODY>
    <TR height=18>
      <TD width=87 bgColor=#ffffff height=18>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>tt 
        276</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=95 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>109 
        074</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=51 bgColor=#ffffff x:num="200">
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>$200 
        </FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=65 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>276</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=79 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>250</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=93 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>238.5</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=93 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>234</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=86 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>.449"</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=50 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>110</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=98 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>6.9 
        BTDC</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=61 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>10 
        HP</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=126 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rough 
        Idle good W/Early CIS/Carbs*</FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
  <TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width=1007 
  bgColor=#000000 border=0 x:str>
    <TBODY>
    <TR height=17>
      <TD width=87 bgColor=#ffffff height=17>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>tt 
        268</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=95 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>109 
        071</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=51 bgColor=#ffffff x:num="130">
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>$130 
        </FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=65 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>268</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=79 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>245/244.5</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=93 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>232.5/231</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=93 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>226/225</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=86 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>.440"</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=50 bgColor=#ffffff x:num>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" 
        size=2>110</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=98 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>2.8 
        BTDC</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=61 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>6-7 
        HP</FONT></DIV></TD>
      <TD width=126 bgColor=#ffffff>
        <DIV align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>All 
        Hyd. Except OBD II Fair Idle **</FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
  <DIV>* need HD springs</DIV>
  <DIV>** need HD springs and retainers</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>What do the springs and retainers usually run? TT is currently out of 
  stock. If this was something I would seriously consider, I can't drop a ton. 
  I'm pretty much looking to put $500 into the car for now, getting the most 
  bang for the buck possible.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Dan<BR><B><I>Decker &lt;boisfort@myhome.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perfect will depend on your intake, 
    exhaust, fuel, compression, ignition etc. Plus what you like and how you 
    drive. Perfect for me might be poor to you. I have an 86 Audi 10 to 1 
    compression 8V hydraulic in my 1979 Scirocco with a good 2 and half in 
    exhaust. I installed a 272 German cam I bought from AVS in Adna WA and it 
    lit my engine up big time. It is stronger at 2500 and really comes on strong 
    by 3000 and is still going strong when I shift at 6000. To me I don't see 
    how it could be better for a daily driver. I do have an adjustable Cam 
    pulley and have it&nbsp;set to keep low end power.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Brian Decker</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A title=sad_rocc@yahoo.com href="mailto:sad_rocc@yahoo.com";>Dan Smith</A> 
      </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
      href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:34 
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> best cam?</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>I'm dreaming about perf. cams in an 8v with a hydro head. What's the 
      best to go with for a DD? TTuning.com has quite a few different options 
      for all around the same price.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Dan</DIV>
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