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4K or Not 4K

i have heard this as well about machining some tranny housings, i think the 4k
will handle 100 mm's. i've heard that fn's need the housing machined, but the
riegers fn has 100mm flanges with no machining. i dunno what the right answer
is, heh.
Al

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Wagner" <scirocco_88_16v@hotmail.com>
To: "Jason Adams" <roclist@accessconsulting.ca>; "Julie Macfarlane"
<juliemac57@hotmail.com>; <vwtype53@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K


> Are the hubs a direct bolt on?
>
> Or is there machining involved?
>
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Adams" <roclist@accessconsulting.ca>
> To: "Julie Macfarlane" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>; <vwtype53@yahoo.com>;
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K
>
>
> > The 4k is 90mm, however you can fit 100mm hubs & LSD Kit on it if you want
> > to run 16v half shafts, afaik the outers sholdn't matter on a MKII.
> >
> > all this talk about trannies has me fired up to swap the AGB for my 4K in
> my
> > 16v.
> >
> > Jason Adams
> > Fahrvergnugen Forever!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julie Macfarlane" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>
> > To: <vwtype53@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K
> >
> >
> > > Its 2am & I can't sleep the night of one of the biggest meetings I've
> ever
> > > had.
> > > Ok. Great explination. So the FF can go in the MKII with a JH instead.
> > > Is the 4K 90 or 100mm (or is it the other end that changes size..Never
> > > worked that part out).
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Benjamin Harder <vwtype53@yahoo.com>
> > > >To: Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com>, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > >Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K
> > > >Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:39:51 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Julie,
> > > >
> > > >   Yes, you *could* use a 0.71 for the 5th gear in the 4k, but I
> > > >would highly recommend against it.  My personal preference of course.
> > > >The 4k uses a stock 0.89 5th...  Just dropping down to a 0.80
> > > >will still allow you to have good acceleration on the highway without
> > > >the high RPM's that the stock 4k 0.89 would have produced at a given
> > speed.
> > > >Dropping all the way down to a 0.71 (FF 5th) is quite extreme.  It
> would
> > > >be a *huge* drop from 4th to 5th!  You may like it, but I know that I
> > > >wouldn't... here's why...
> > > >I built a "4k" for my mk2 16v...I chose a 0.75 5th.  Big drop from 4th
> > > >to 5th, definitely not a natural gear change.  It is nice on the
> highway
> > > >above 70 mph, but any slower and I have little torque available for
> > > >acceleration.  It's a terrible feeling to be cruising at 60 mph coming
> up
> > > >to a hill and feel the need to go into 4th.
> > > >It is really a personal preference I suppose...
> > > >
> > > >Oh, and the question about beating Ben in a race... highly unlikely.
> ;)~
> > > >(but doing the 4k tranny swap would sure help)
> > > >
> > > >Ben
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > If I pull the .71 from the FF, I just need a 2l bottom. My butt is
> > ONLY
> > > >1.8
> > > > > 16v  :)
> > > > > The car is going off road very soon, to be stripped for painting.
> > > > > If I moved to a 2l could I beat Ben Harder in a race? How much would
> a
> > > >2L
> > > > > bottom end cost in good condition? Which engine should I look for?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Allyn <amalventano1@comcast.net>
> > > > > >To: Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com>, vwtype53@yahoo.com,
> > > > > >scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > >Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K
> > > > > >Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:44:40 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >yup, .71 5th. 2 liter would pull it just fine.
> > > > > >Al
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Julie Macfarlane" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >To: <vwtype53@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > > >Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:34 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can I swa0p the 5th from the FF I have in the garage?
> > > > > > > WOW! Forget the little old lady from Pasadena!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Benjamin Harder <vwtype53@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > >To: Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com>,
> > > >scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K
> > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:49:12 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--- Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Why is it every one wants a 4K transaxle?
> > > > > > > > > I may have found one for < $50.00
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  One word: ACCELERATION
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Julie, the 4k is the best geared stock VW tranny for
> > > >acceleration...
> > > > > > > >combine a 3.94 final drive with a close-ratio gear set and you
> > have
> > > > > > > >one mean pulling rocco!  $50 is a great deal!
> > > > > > > >The only suggestion I have for the 4k gearbox is to change the
> > > >stock
> > > > > > > >5th gear to a 0.80 instead.  The stock 5th gear is great for
> the
> > > >open
> > > > > > > >race track, but terrible on the highway.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >You're 16v mk1 will be noticeably faster with this tranny!  ;)~
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >=====
> > > > > > > >Benjamin Harder
> > > > > > > >86 Scirocco 16v
> > > > > > > >80 Scirocco 16v
> > > > > > > >93 Passat GLX
> > > > > > > >
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