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Subject: erratic running
From: ralexander03@snet.net (Rick Alexander)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:16:58 -0400
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After reading this it occurs to me that a dirty ground some where in the =
computer circuits would act like this. It's not like we are not subject =
to faulty grounds or anything.

Rick Alexander
http://www.brubakerbox.com
http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/
http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Allyn=20
  To: jim b ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:43 PM
  Subject: Re: erratic running


  sounds like your problem is very sensitive to voltage chanes. =
specifically ones where voltage dips slightly less than where it sits at =
no-load. im thinking dirty contact somewhere. vague i know, but thats =
about as specific as you can get with a problem like that.
  Al

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: jim b=20
    To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
    Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:15 PM
    Subject: Re: erratic running






    I did the test of the charging system per the bentley and it was =
within the range when i first connected the voltmeter to the battery and =
stayed within range when i turned electrical stuff on.  I tried driving =
it again and found that the problem was not as bad, it seems to get =
worse the more you drive it and i hadn't driven it in a few days.  also =
i noticed the idle was a bit lower than normal and it would drop =
slightly and the car would get "shaky" periodically.  It would do it =
immediately if i turned anything electrical on.  i also tested the =
battery, it's good too. Help!

    James =20



    >From: "Brian Wagner"=20
    >To: "jim b" ,=20
    >Subject: Re: erratic running=20
    >Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:56:32 -0700=20
    >=20
    >Go here http://www.geocities.com/scirocco_88_16v/vrtech this is my =
one and=20
    >only Tech Tip=20
    >=20
    >Test voltage at the battery first with the car running and all =
electrical=20
    >accessories on you should se a voltage no lower than 13.3V. If it =
drops=20
    >below that the battery is not charging. If it drops to say 12.6 and =
holds=20
    >the regulator has gone bad, and if it continues dropping the longer =
it runs=20
    >then you need to rplace the alternator becasue the windings are =
breaking=20
    >down.=20
    >=20
    >Also clean all your grounding point and add some more.=20
    >=20
    >HTH=20
    >=20
    >Brian=20
    >----- Original Message -----=20
    >From: "jim b"=20
    >To:=20
    >Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:52 PM=20
    >Subject: erratic running=20
    >=20
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    > >=20
    > > I've posted this problem before, and said that when i charged =
the battery=20
    >it=20
    > > fixed the problem, but now it is back, perhaps charging the =
battery was=20
    >just=20
    > > a fluke. It seems like the car is not getting gas and won't =
accelerate=20
    >but=20
    > > then suddenly it will but very erraticly. I couldn't even get =
the car up=20
    >to=20
    > > highway speed and barely got it off the road. If i stop giving =
the car=20
    >gas,=20
    > > it will stop running. I can start it but it will stop running =
after a few=20
    > > seconds. It seems to be either ignition or fuel problem. Does =
anyone have=20
    > > any insight into what this could be? tia.=20
    > >=20
    > > James=20
    > >=20
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<DIV><STRONG>After reading this it occurs to me that a dirty ground some =
where=20
in the computer circuits would act like this. It's not like we are not =
subject=20
to faulty grounds or anything.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Rick Alexander<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.brubakerbox.com";>http://www.brubakerbox.com</A><BR><A =

href=3D"http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/";>http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/<=
/A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/";>http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsr=
us/</A></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Damalventano1@comcast.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net";>Allyn</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djimbw1@hotmail.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:jimbw1@hotmail.com";>jim b</A> ; <A =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 18, =
2002 9:43=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: erratic =
running</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sounds like your problem is very =
sensitive to=20
  voltage chanes. specifically ones where voltage dips slightly less =
than where=20
  it sits at no-load. im thinking dirty contact somewhere. vague i know, =
but=20
  thats about as specific as you can get with a problem like =
that.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Al</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Djimbw1@hotmail.com href=3D"mailto:jimbw1@hotmail.com";>jim =
b</A>=20
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
    href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September =
18, 2002=20
    6:15 PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: erratic =
running</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P><BR><BR></P>
    <DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <P>I did the test of the charging system per the bentley and it was =
within=20
    the range when i first connected the voltmeter to the battery and =
stayed=20
    within range when i turned electrical stuff on.&nbsp; I tried =
driving it=20
    again and found that the problem was not as bad, it seems to get =
worse the=20
    more you drive it and i hadn't driven it in a few days.&nbsp; also i =
noticed=20
    the idle was a bit lower than normal and it would drop&nbsp;slightly =

    and&nbsp;the car would get&nbsp;"shaky" periodically.&nbsp; It would =
do it=20
    immediately if i turned anything electrical on.&nbsp; i also tested =
the=20
    battery, it's good too. Help!</P></DIV>
    <P>James&nbsp; <BR><BR></P></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Brian Wagner" <SCIROCCO_88_16V@HOTMAIL.COM>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: "jim b" <JIMBW1@HOTMAIL.COM>, =
<SCIROCCO-L@SCIROCCO.ORG>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: erratic running=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:56:32 -0700=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Go here =
http://www.geocities.com/scirocco_88_16v/vrtech this=20
    is my one and=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;only Tech Tip=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Test voltage at the battery first with the car =
running and=20
    all electrical=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;accessories on you should se a voltage no lower than =
13.3V.=20
    If it drops=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;below that the battery is not charging. If it drops =
to say=20
    12.6 and holds=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;the regulator has gone bad, and if it continues =
dropping the=20
    longer it runs=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;then you need to rplace the alternator becasue the =
windings=20
    are breaking=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;down.=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Also clean all your grounding point and add some =
more.=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;HTH=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Brian=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message -----=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "jim b" <JIMBW1@HOTMAIL.COM>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <SCIROCCO-L@SCIROCCO.ORG>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:52 PM=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: erratic running=20
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    <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I've posted this problem before, and said that =
when i=20
    charged the battery=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;it=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; fixed the problem, but now it is back, perhaps =
charging=20
    the battery was=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;just=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; a fluke. It seems like the car is not getting =
gas and=20
    won't accelerate=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;but=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; then suddenly it will but very erraticly. I =
couldn't=20
    even get the car up=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;to=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; highway speed and barely got it off the road. =
If i stop=20
    giving the car=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;gas,=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; it will stop running. I can start it but it =
will stop=20
    running after a few=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; seconds. It seems to be either ignition or fuel =

    problem. Does anyone have=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; any insight into what this could be? tia.=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; James=20
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