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You know this argument pops up every year... Until VWoA puts out a AWD
version of the Golf it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to argue which is
better... You really can't compare a FWD with a RWD fairly.
I for one am a fan of the WRX and when the STI version hits our shores
(rumored MY2004) I will buy one not to replace my Scirocco or to go out and
beat 1.8t's, etc... but just for me.
-RGK-
At 10:39 AM 10/24/02 -0400, Jason wrote:
>At 12:37 AM 10/24/2002, Brandon Smith wrote:
>>also please tell me why the 180hp turbo S Beetle does a 1/4 mile in
>>15.00 completely stock. what does the WRX do it in? ( i actually don't
>>know....fill me in)
>
> From MotorWeek Online:
>
>Subaru WRX:
>0-60 5.4s
>1/4 mile: 14.3@95mph.
>http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2036a.shtml
>
>Volkswagen New Beetle Turbo S
>0-60: 6.6s
>1/4 mile: 15.3@94mph
>http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2149a.shtml
>
>Having driven them both, I don't like the WRX -- but that doesn't change
>the fact that it's apples and oranges compared to the 1.8T. It's
>monumentally faster.
>
>Jason
>
>
>
>
>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Jason
>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:26 PM
>>>To: Brandon Smith; Neal Tovsen; SCIROCCO-LIST
>>>Subject: Re: Re: R32
>>>
>>>Hey Brandon,
>>> Before everyone else jumps in and beats you up... :)
>>>
>>> I have to correct you again -- the WRX is *significantly*
>>> faster than any of VW's 1.8T offerings.
>>>
>>>The WRX hits 60 in the upper 5-second to lower 6-second range. The GTI
>>>is very low 7s. Granted, the WRX has an advantage off the line due to
>>>AWD, but the fact of the matter is that its power-to-weight ratio is
>>>flat out better than the GTI.
>>>
>>>Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 12:12 AM 10/24/2002, Brandon Smith wrote:
>>>>WRX faster than a VW??? maybe a 2.0 8v..... Try driving a 1.8t Golf or
>>>>GTI and tell me that the WRX is faster. the 1.8t has VERY little turbo
>>>>lag, while the WRX has more than it should. you can get into a
>>>>baseline 1.8t GTI for a little more than $18,000...
>>>>
>>>>the WRX might, take a VW in top end.....like i said....might.
>>>>i admit...the WRX can be modded a lot more easier for a faster car in
>>>>the end.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Okay i admit, most VW dealerships do suck....however there is this one
>>>>badass dealership that does the best of both worlds...Subaru and
>>>>Volkswagen. its called Hueberger Motors in Colorado Springs,
>>>>Colorado. they are pretty cool about mods too. And they can do the
>>>>400hp Rally car just like yours. and fly over a team of japanese
>>>>engineers and they bring some cool ass shit with them.
>>>>
>>>>-Brando
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That is cool and all, but:
>>>>>
>>>>>1) The WRX (and other cars) are still faster and
>>>>>cheaper.
>>>>>
>>>>>2) VW dealerships still SUCK when it comes to
>>>>>servicing people with "mods".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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You know this argument pops up every year... Until VWoA puts out a AWD
version of the Golf it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to argue which
is better... You really can't compare a FWD with a RWD fairly. <br><br>
I for one am a fan of the WRX and when the STI version hits our shores
(rumored MY2004) I will buy one not to replace my Scirocco or to go out
and beat 1.8t's, etc... but just for me.<br><br>
-RGK-<br><br>
At 10:39 AM 10/24/02 -0400, Jason wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>At 12:37 AM 10/24/2002, Brandon
Smith wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>also please tell me why the 180hp
turbo S Beetle does a 1/4 mile in 15.00 completely
stock. what does the WRX do it in? ( i actually don't know....fill
me in)</blockquote><br>
From MotorWeek Online:<br><br>
Subaru WRX:<br>
0-60 5.4s<br>
1/4 mile: 14.3@95mph.<br>
<a href="http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2036a.shtml"; eudora="autourl">http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2036a.shtml</a><br><br>
Volkswagen New Beetle Turbo S<br>
0-60: 6.6s<br>
1/4 mile: 15.3@94mph<br>
<a href="http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2149a.shtml"; eudora="autourl">http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2149a.shtml</a><br><br>
Having driven them both, I don't like the WRX -- but that doesn't change
the fact that it's apples and oranges compared to the 1.8T. It's
monumentally faster.<br><br>
Jason<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>----- Original Message -----<br>
<b>From:</b> Jason<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brandon Smith; Neal Tovsen; SCIROCCO-LIST<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Re: R32<br>
<br>
Hey Brandon,<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>Before
everyone else jumps in and beats you up... :) <br><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>I have to
correct you again -- the WRX is *significantly* faster than any of VW's
1.8T offerings.<br><br>
The WRX hits 60 in the upper 5-second to lower 6-second range. The
GTI is very low 7s. Granted, the WRX has an advantage off the
line due to AWD, but the fact of the matter is that its power-to-weight
ratio is flat out better than the GTI.<br><br>
Jason<br><br>
<br><br>
At 12:12 AM 10/24/2002, Brandon Smith wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>WRX faster than a VW??? maybe a 2.0
8v..... Try driving a 1.8t Golf or GTI and tell me that the WRX is
faster. the 1.8t has VERY little turbo lag, while the WRX has more
than it should. you can get into a baseline 1.8t GTI for a little
more than $18,000...<br>
<br>
the WRX might, take a VW in top end.....like i said....might.<br>
i admit...the WRX can be modded a lot more easier for a faster car in the
end.<br>
<br>
<br>
Okay i admit, most VW dealerships do suck....however there is this one
badass dealership that does the best of both worlds...Subaru and
Volkswagen. its called Hueberger Motors in Colorado Springs,
Colorado. they are pretty cool about mods too. And they can do the
400hp Rally car just like yours. and fly over a team of japanese
engineers and they bring some cool ass shit with them.<br>
<br>
-Brando<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><br>
<br><br>
That is cool and all, but:<br><br>
1) The WRX (and other cars) are still faster and<br>
cheaper.<br><br>
2) VW dealerships still SUCK when it comes to<br>
servicing people with "mods".<br><br>
</blockquote><br>
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