George Dubya RX

[brads@mindspring.com (Brad Sheridan)]

  The auto trannies DSMs maybe. The manual trannie ones, they have
problems. I hear of plenty of people breaking them, the center diff, and
other parts, before they break half shafts. While a lot of people that
break them are making loads of power, there are quite a few that have
broken them at moderate levels. I havent broken mine yet, and its somewhere
near the 400hp mark, but I'm sure its all on borrowed time, and I have a
new beefed up tranny waiting to go in. The Subaru people say the DSM
trannies are crap, the DSM people say the same about the Subaru trannies.
They all seem to be a little weak, especially when you start going for big hp.

  While my eclipse has been under the knife, I pulled out my scirocco 16V
and have been driving it, I forgot how much fun that car is :) 

Brad

At 08:30 AM 10/24/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
>I'd say AWD DSMs don't have weak trannies.  Considering they break
>half-shafts before they break gears.
>
>Dude I'm not after Subaru, I just don't think they're "god's gift," if
>you will :)
>
>Joe Doty
>IT/Development
>joe@lcnetwork.com 
>
>
>Without traction, 2WD cars can spin tires all day long to release energy
>and
>bleed off power. It is a "relief valve" of sorts. AWD cars simply don't
>have
>that ability (unless you're making 500hp+, in which case you've got a
>whole
>new set of problems!). When you do a 7000RPM clutch drop in an AWD car,
>the
>energy has no where to go. Parts start flying. You think the R32 will be
>different? Don't count on it. Unfortunately, there have been a lot of
>irresponsible people driving WRXs.
>
>>
>> Also, Subaru's dealers are probably worse than VWs when it comes to
>> warranty repairs on modded cars.  If you go to a Subaru dealer to get
>> something fixed and they find ANYTHING on the car that has been
>modified
>> or replaced with a go-fast goodie, they put you on a nationwide
>> blacklist that will allow them to refuse you service at ANY Subaru
>> dealer.
>
>Where did you hear that? Show the proof. I've heard those roumors, but
>it is
>simply NOT true. There is NO national "blacklist". It would be 100%
>illegal
>if it were. I've been told this by rather high-ranking SoA reps (not
>dealers, but mfgr. reps). There are dealers that are pulling crap like
>this,
>but it is not the norm and it isn't right. Go to another dealer. If you
>are
>victim of any situation like that, DON'T LET THEM WIN.
>
>However, if you show up at the shop with a blown tranny expecting a
>warranty
>fix, and they find hot-spots on your clutch, don't expect a lot of
>sympathy!
>
>I can only hope VW will act as well with the R32.
>
>> However, I did see one go 10.7 at Famoso a couple months ago...only
>took
>> $5000 worth of transmission and $10000 worth of Australian crate motor
>> to do it though :) One guy blew his $5000 dog box.
>
>Of course. AWD cars with a lot of power WILL blow ANY transmission,
>especially when drag-raced! Not much you can do when there is no "relief
>valve".
>
>Neal
>
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